I've vowed for over a year that I wouldn't upgrade/change my race bike until I'd won something but the temptation has pretty much gotten the better of me.

I'm currently on a Kuota Kharma 2012, running 105 and to be fair, it's a bit of a dog. It was great when I wasn't racing but its performance and acceleration abilities on the climbs are really starting to wear me down. It's just not stiff enough (ho ho). You can literally feel it bending under the pressure when you start to put the power down.

The Madone 4.7 is only a slight upgrade but with it coming in at the same price point, with full Ultegra & weighing about a kg less as a full build it's almost a no-brainer.

Just wondering, has anyone raced the Madones or does anyone have any informed opinions on these? I don't want to buy a new race bike with the aim of bettering performance only to find that it's a similar dog to my Kuota.

Cheers ^_^


Colin Peyresourde [1630 posts] 1 year ago

I have a 2009 5.2. It's stiff and wonderfully fast. But I can only recommend that you try before you buy.

notfastenough [3655 posts] 1 year ago

I have a 2013 4.5, and while I don't race, I can confirm that it feels stiff when pushing on.

That said, the Cervelo R3 105 build is around the same price (as is the S2, actually) and current 105 is probably quite different to the 4-yr old stuff.

If it helps, here my write-up of all the bikes I tried around that price range:


mooleur [537 posts] 1 year ago

Mmm I was looking at the possibility of the 5.2 but my LBS is doing a bloody amazing deal on the 4.7 I figured it's much of a muchness (despite slightly lower grade of carbon) - so going for the value & saving a few bob. The guy who runs the shop races with us and he's on a project one and reckons there's not a vast amount of difference between the 4's all the way up to the 6's nowdays, said it'll certainly make a difference on the climbs which is what I'm after really.

They've not got my size in stock unfortunately so it'll be a case of try once it's ordered, hopefully that's not an issue for them  1

Cervelo is a brand I always seem to forget about but always envy when I see one out and about! I'm not sure who stocks them over here (Isle of Man) though  2 I rather fancy one of their TT bikes too!

Thanks for the post that's mega handy!  4

Cheers all