New Wheels Rant

by Mynydd.Mawr   November 11, 2008  

An old adage goes: "If you don't have anything nice to say, don't say anything at all."...... As you'll see below, I don't strictly hold with this way of thinking.

I am currently undergoing an emotional dilemma, the bubbly nervous euphoria of having spent money on something shiny, tempered with the stormy frustration of knowing that I've already got one. Only it doesn't work (because, admittedly, of my own stupidity). But, should be easily repairable if only the world's biggest manufacturer / distributer of bike parts could manage to deliver an order in less than three and a half months (and bl**dy counting)!

Yes, Madison Cycles, I'm talking about you! I only wanted six spokes! I have tried every bike shop online or otherwise that I can find, and they all source their parts through you. My LBS has had these on order with you for well over three months! Are you shipping them over from Japan by bicycle? Caravanserai? Dirigible?

The wheel was still rideable until last week, when one of the spokes snapped. Now I've bought a new, similar wheelset.

Any other fools have trouble like this from these fools? Or is this fool the only fool? Pity the fool! Crazy fool!

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can't say i have but bad service just sucks whenever you get it. last time i moved house it took orange three weeks to switch the broadband over, and on top of that they charged me the best part of £100 to pick up my email on my phone because THEY COULDN"T SORT THE BL**DY WIRES OUT. And then you can't complain because the phone people don't give a toss about the broadband people, and vice versa. GRRRRRR Angry Angry Angry Angry Angry

aaaaah, that feels better.

what kind of spokes were they anyway?

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posted by purplecup [232 posts]
11th November 2008 - 21:29

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I hear you! It is kind of cathartic isn't it? Sometimes I wish I was John Cleese; he can do angry shouting pretty much all the time and get away with it.

WH R550-R spokes 276mm from the drive side (some poor adjusting of the derailleur). I know it's an old wheelset, and not particularly expensive, but for such a big company you'd think they'd have a couple lying around...

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
11th November 2008 - 23:22

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What model of wheel is it??

Front or rear wheel??

Drive side on none drive side??

If its a shimano wheel the code should be on the hub

posted by rottwieller [1 posts]
24th November 2008 - 15:40

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I just logged on to Shimano's website and checked the part code for your spoke which is 4C4 9810
This is the same spoke used on the R560 wheel
They are in stock at Madison and retail for £2.99 each including nipple and washer.
It took me all of 5 minutes don't know who you have been using, but it wasn't hard to get this info. Big Grin

posted by xanboy [2 posts]
24th November 2008 - 18:50

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actually lives on Myndd Mawr then they don't even have real currency there (daffodils, I think) let alone Olde Bik-e Shoppes, and their information superhighway is still just a muddy cart track next to the babbling brook..... Wink

The Man In Black.

posted by gandberg [215 posts]
25th November 2008 - 20:05

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Rottweiler; Please see the second pargraph of my latest post (the one that was there for around 10 days or so before you posted yours).

Xanboy; Please check out this link:

http://techdocs.shimano.com/media/techdocs/content/cycle/EV/actionsports...

It seems the part number is Y-4BE98150 Big Grin And if you can prize any of them from the grasping hands of Madison cycles, then fair play to you.

And what's wrong with daffodils or babbling brooks??

Peace and Love......

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:00

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Get you boys! Smile Smile Smile

still, i'd expect xanboy to know his way round madison, what with being a cervelo/genesis rider and living just down the road from stanmore... coincidence? Devil

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posted by purplecup [232 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:06

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… not so keen on brooks though Plain Face

Darned if I do…

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posted by Mr Sock [152 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:17

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What about daffodils?

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:19

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i reckon xanboy's right, at least in the sense that the R560 spoke looks like a dead ringer for the R550 spoke, even if the product code is different. and Madison do have those in stock...

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posted by purplecup [232 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:26

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And thus I extend a wholehearted apology to Xanboy. The new wheelset I bought (which is pleasingly shiny and silver, with the added bonus of having a round rear wheel) is the R 561, and they are very similar. Away to my bike shop at the weekend to see if they can rustle up the spokes to bring the original wheel back to the straight and narrow, and to ask them why they didn't think of this.....

Now what to do with a spare set of wheels?

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:37

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I like them!

Can't wait to see some.

In the verges, rather than Tescos

Darned if I do…

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posted by Mr Sock [152 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:39

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Mynydd.Mawr wrote:

Now what to do with a spare set of wheels?

Time to get a spare frame, and maybe some running gear, and a fork.

And a saddle Thinking

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posted by Denzil Dexter [139 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:43

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however, with the back, follow the preaching of Dexter and cyclings very dios, Mr Brown (not Gordy) and create a very special beast indeed:

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/tandem-build.html

Inspirational stuff. Take it on a tour with Mankind and Mr. Socko, to the Dutch bulb fields. Tulips are so much better than daffs, and you could pop into 'Dam (Amster, not Jean Claude - anyway, isnt he a friggin evil Belgian?) for a scmoke and a pancahke.... B)

The Man In Black.

posted by gandberg [215 posts]
25th November 2008 - 22:55

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sounds like you need to make yourself one of these...

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posted by purplecup [232 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:07

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I like the way Denzil thinks.... anyone got a spare frame going? (and forks, saddle etc.)?

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:10

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...and possibly a stem. Well, it's a start. Smile

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7021 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:15

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as I could easily stop for a hot snack if hunger set in..

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posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:22

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But, one of my colleagues in the lab has pointed out the potential flaw…with the er donor wheel we are starting out with.

"When using wheels built for solo bicycles, 630 mm (27") or 622 mm (700c) wheels are likely to be unsatisfactory for tandem use. Mountain-bike wheels in the normal 559 mm (26") size will give good service, if they are of good quality. If you are using three-speeds, the better older 590 mm (26 x 1 3/8) wheels can also give good service in light duty."

Says Sheldon Brown.

What about a unicycle? That's an interesting beast too…

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posted by Denzil Dexter [139 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:23

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would the yokels make of such curios as fire round your way?

and as for the potatoes cooking, if you got cold on top of your Mawr, stuff a hot spud down your bib and warm your own spuds, or even place them in your shoes (heated spd/spuds anyone?)

Tangents are great, this thread has sprouted many!

The Man In Black.

posted by gandberg [215 posts]
25th November 2008 - 23:30

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to try and grow a bike from your back wheel - though I suppose if it wasn't a tandem we were growing you could use the front one as well. You've already got the saddle and a stem. What size frame do you ride?

If you went singlespeed or fixed it would be even easier. Okay, maybe not to ride up and down Welsh hills but…

On a bike somewhere…

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posted by thebikeboy [138 posts]
26th November 2008 - 0:47

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Hi Mynydd.Mawr, not sure what colour you need. The code above is for a Silver spoke, if you want a black one you could use part number 4CD 9810, which is a 561 rear spoke and should do the job for you. The original part number which is a black spoke, is due in with Madison next week.
Happy riding Smile

posted by xanboy [2 posts]
26th November 2008 - 10:17

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Are we building this bike or not?

Darned if I do…

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posted by Mr Sock [152 posts]
27th November 2008 - 10:12

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doesnt want to build this community vehicle, I'll have a good old go! Been keen on a singlespeed/fixed wheel for ages now and the cheaper the better.

The 205 Rallye has passed her mot now too so the spanners are sitting, looking idle and folorn...

So any old 58cm frames / running gear about, get in touch Smile

The Man In Black.

posted by gandberg [215 posts]
27th November 2008 - 23:07

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 a 58cm frame we'd be up for it, but we don't Sad

Anybody else out there got one?

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posted by Tony Farrelly [4110 posts]
28th November 2008 - 11:31

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My local bike shop finally got the spokes in sometime over X-mas...... and didn't bother to call me! Makes me feel rather viciously happy that I got my new wheels from Chainreactioncycles, my new LBS without the BS (Gods bless t'interweb)!

posted by Mynydd.Mawr [28 posts]
19th January 2009 - 22:10

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always nice to have a spare set of wheels knocking about Smile

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posted by Dave Atkinson [7021 posts]
19th January 2009 - 22:36

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