New Team Sky kit - would you wear it?

by sm   January 2, 2014  

So, seen the new see-through Team Sky kit? Here it is expertly modelled by Mr Froome: http://bit.ly/1drpxcs

Wiggo has been harder to track down wearing it, here he is in training though (scroll to bottom): http://bit.ly/1lCCfpO

Would you wear it or any kind of semi-transparent kit for that matter?

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Do I get a pass on Rule 43 for getting our logo on a team kit?
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posted by ade [72 posts]
9th January 2014 - 16:00

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Thanks for the translations. What an ill-tempered chap.

Al_S...well, quite. And indeed I was not berating or blanking anyone. The question was would *I* wear it, and my answer referred to me, not anyone else. However, our colonial chum appears to have read this differently. Ah well.

posted by andyp [634 posts]
9th January 2014 - 18:59

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Is there a statute of limitations on wearing team kit? I like old/retro jerseys which I buy off Ebay, for example my 1973 bike looks very similar to the one on which Ocana won Le Tour, so I hope I'm OK wearing my Bic jersey to complete the illusion.

I also have a jersey emblazoned 'Kampioen West_Vlaanderen' - mid '80s judging by the font. I guess the real champion wont mind me wearing it as he must have put it on Ebay.

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posted by Crosshouses [142 posts]
9th January 2014 - 20:46

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Al__S wrote:
"come at me bro" is a praticularly american invitation to fight.

Usually used now in jest, mainly by Brits & Europeans in a sarcastic manner as if to mimic Americans... its just a popular pisstake of modern slang.

I have to stick up for the guy who made that comment as I see folks are calling him out for being "ill tempered"... which is really not necessary!

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posted by mooleur [369 posts]
10th January 2014 - 10:40

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Crosshouses wrote:
Is there a statute of limitations on wearing team kit? I like old/retro jerseys which I buy off Ebay, for example my 1973 bike looks very similar to the one on which Ocana won Le Tour, so I hope I'm OK wearing my Bic jersey to complete the illusion.

I also have a jersey emblazoned 'Kampioen West_Vlaanderen' - mid '80s judging by the font. I guess the real champion wont mind me wearing it as he must have put it on Ebay.

I don't think there's (or at least there shouldn't be) any limitations - I love some of the old retro kit! Smile Really wanna get some old Peugeot kit.

Like it's been mentioned previous, bit of jest between mates is all good fun but when it comes to the point that people are being made to feel guilty or belittled when riding their bikes - that's just not cool. In fact it's down right bad sportsmanship.

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posted by mooleur [369 posts]
10th January 2014 - 10:42

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'I have to stick up for the guy who made that comment as I see folks are calling him out for being "ill tempered"... which is really not necessary! '

the nazi comment was necessary, presumably?

posted by andyp [634 posts]
10th January 2014 - 11:23

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andyp wrote:
'I have to stick up for the guy who made that comment as I see folks are calling him out for being "ill tempered"... which is really not necessary! '

the nazi comment was necessary, presumably?

Nazi how? I was trying to be nice, the guy meant well enough. Slightly pot kettle there!

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posted by mooleur [369 posts]
10th January 2014 - 11:59

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Godwin's Law; you killed the thread.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

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posted by bikeboy76 [1053 posts]
11th January 2014 - 1:27

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No, I wouldn't wear current kit. Its just not my thing. I do wear retro team kit. I have a nice orange San Pellegrino shirt from the 50's and 60's made in modern materials. I also have some other stuff from 10-15 year old teams that I feel comfortable wearing. The website Prendas do some great stuff. I don't have a problem with people who wear current team kit but I dont think its a cool thing to do.

posted by Sensible [46 posts]
18th January 2014 - 19:34

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'Nazi how? I was trying to be nice, the guy meant well enough. Slightly pot kettle there!'

Not you. Try reading the thread. How can you say he meant well enough without reading his post...Smile

posted by andyp [634 posts]
18th January 2014 - 20:00

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andyp wrote:
'Nazi how? I was trying to be nice, the guy meant well enough. Slightly pot kettle there!'

Not you. Try reading the thread. How can you say he meant well enough without reading his post...Smile

Because the use of "come at me bro" is used as a joke, not a threat.

Anyway, as per Godwins law. Thread is dead.

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posted by mooleur [369 posts]
20th January 2014 - 11:04

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Andy P, I'll do a break down for you, just to completely kill any remaining humour.

You wrote:
I don't ride for the team, so no, I won't be wearing the kit.

This is the sort of rule made popular by a website called The Velominati. This is a portmanteau of Illuminati, the secret society, and Velo, the French word for bike. On this website they have a list of rules which are somewhat tongue in cheek, but some people take them far too seriously.

After this ajmarshal1 replied with

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Ah, the good old Velominazi.
I've got a green jersey and I'm shit at sprinting. Come at me bro.

Now then, the word Velominazi is a play on the word velominati that some people to show their displeasure at the bores that hold "The Rules" in such high esteem that they use them as gospel. You've probably guessed what the play is but essentially they've created another portmanteau by tagging the word 'Nazi' on the end.

The "green jersey" is a green coloured cycling top, traditionally awarded to sprinters in the Tour de France. Other grand tours use other colours, green is usually achieved by mixing the primary colours of yellow and blue.

"Shit at sprinting" means that he isn't very good at sprinting.

He is suggesting that there may be some humour in the incongruous pairing of a poor sprinter wearing a sprinters jersey.

"Come at me Bro" is a phrase originally used by some Americans to suggest that they want to initiate a fight but don't really want to throw the first punch. It's often accompanied with outstretched arms, bouncing up and down, etc. Similar to the sort of behaviour you see in pubs and clubs in the UK where some mindless child bounces around trying to look "hard" and shouting inane nonsense like "Do you want it" and such like to make it look like they want to fight but the reality is often that they are just posturing. Come at me bro has now become a bit of an internet meme with the phrase being tagged on to the end of something they have written to mockingly suggest they believe in something so much that they would enter in to physical confrontation to defend that belief. It's kind of implied that the ridiculousness of such a thing highlights that it is not a literal request, but is in fact just a joke.

So, armed with this new knowledge, lets return to the post:

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Ah, the good old Velominazi.
I've got a green jersey and I'm shit at sprinting. Come at me bro.

You see, it's supposed to be funny. Or rather it was supposed to be funny.

posted by farrell [1023 posts]
20th January 2014 - 13:50

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I have a "Once" team top and i have been accused of supporting drug cheats by wearing it.

Didn't realise they are now Astana.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2441 posts]
20th January 2014 - 14:44

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The replicas aren't as see through (thank the Lord). But I was interested to spy the blue version.

Very nice and almost road.ccish in colour.

I am sure our new jersey will be much better, although I am keeping my argyle one.

http://www.rapha.cc/shop/team-sky?cm_re=Homepage-_-MainCarousel-_-tskit2014

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posted by jimmythecuckoo [1186 posts]
20th January 2014 - 15:25

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stumps wrote:
I have a "Once" team top and i have been accused of supporting drug cheats by wearing it.

Didn't realise they are now Astana.

I constantly look for 98 Festina jerseys on Ebay. They never seem to go cheap.

posted by farrell [1023 posts]
20th January 2014 - 15:34

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stumps wrote:
I have a "Once" team top and i have been accused of supporting drug cheats by wearing it.

Didn't realise they are now Astana.

I have ONCE kit too, it is yellow, not to be confused with Hiviz.

I would love to see a flow chart of all the pro teams and what they have been called during the years.

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posted by bikeboy76 [1053 posts]
21st January 2014 - 1:36

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I would have absolutely no problem wearing this strip. However:-

I'm 45 with a raging cake addiction and more body-hair than the average chimp!

You would probably pay me lots of money not to wear it. Big Grin

posted by levermonkey [180 posts]
26th January 2014 - 20:03

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bikeboy76 wrote:
stumps wrote:
I have a "Once" team top and i have been accused of supporting drug cheats by wearing it.

Didn't realise they are now Astana.

I have ONCE kit too, it is yellow, not to be confused with Hiviz.

I would love to see a flow chart of all the pro teams and what they have been called during the years.

Mine is the lovely pink one as worn by a previous hero of mine Alex Zulle.

If you must break the law, do it to seize power: in all other cases observe it. Gaius Julius Caesar.

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posted by stumps [2441 posts]
26th January 2014 - 20:11

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bikeboy76 wrote:
stumps wrote:
I have a "Once" team top and i have been accused of supporting drug cheats by wearing it.

Didn't realise they are now Astana.

I have ONCE kit too, it is yellow, not to be confused with Hiviz.

I would love to see a flow chart of all the pro teams and what they have been called during the years.

This should help with the history of Pro-Teams- be warned though- a lot of info!
http://velorooms.com/files/teamgen.pdf

posted by Otis Bragg [71 posts]
27th January 2014 - 0:02

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I wouldn't wear it because I'm a self confessed cycling snob and abhor those that wear FPK(w).

At least I'm honest Big Grin

posted by southseabythesea [61 posts]
27th January 2014 - 14:03

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As an OPQS fan, I am unlikely to invest in the new Sky kit - besides, I don't think it would be very flattering to a man of my dimensions! Also, having read the following, I am even more disinclined to wear see-through kit!

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/jan/24/chris-froome-sunburn-team-s...

"It's my way, or the wrong way" - Mark Cavendish

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posted by SirCav [23 posts]
27th January 2014 - 17:09

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southseabythesea wrote:
I wouldn't wear it because I'm a self confessed cycling snob and abhor those that wear FPK(w).

At least I'm honest Big Grin

I'm probably being really dumb, but...

What does FPK(w) mean?!

posted by 700c [485 posts]
27th January 2014 - 20:25

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Full Pro Kit I think.

The (w) presumably rhymes with bankers

posted by allez neg [409 posts]
27th January 2014 - 21:37

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Oh, tempted to change my user name to FullProKit to rub it in your face. Shame you can't change it seems without reregistering, haven't got a spare email and don't want to loose my post count, grrr.

Otis Bragg wrote:
This should help with the history of Pro-Teams- be warned though- a lot of info!
http://velorooms.com/files/teamgen.pdf

Otis, that is exactly what I was thinking of, bit big. ONCE became Astana, sad story.

PS. I am a banker, well I work in the call centre, but we are all the same aren't we. Laughing

PPS. SouthSea, I am also a admitted snob and look down on anyone whose jersey and shorts do not match. FPK as you call it ensures that this sin never occurs.

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posted by bikeboy76 [1053 posts]
27th January 2014 - 22:06

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Re the Froome sunburn pic - OUCH!

Still, understandable that a pale skin Brit wouldn't realise the power of the hot African sun - it's not like he grew up in Kenya or anything is it?

posted by allez neg [409 posts]
28th January 2014 - 0:13

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bikeboy76 wrote:

PPS. SouthSea, I am also a admitted snob and look down on anyone whose jersey and shorts do not match. FPK as you call it ensures that this sin never occurs.

I always accessorise, kit and bike...just not Pro kit Big Grin

posted by southseabythesea [61 posts]
28th January 2014 - 9:59

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I'm going to have to get matching shorts for my sky top then -currently I'm offending too many groups of people!

But then I'd also like a replica USPS jersey, just for the hell of it!

I'm kind of hoping wearing a sky top makes me a target for bike snobs, TBH -livens up a ride, especially if I manage to disprove the assumption that I have 'all the gear and no idea'!

posted by 700c [485 posts]
28th January 2014 - 12:51

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In answer to the original question, no. I have the 2013 top and that's see through enough. Allthough i'm living in Perth, Australia at the moment, and haven't managed to get any sun through the side panels.

On the subject of wearing team kit. The Velominati actually says it's a no no to wear championship jerseys and race leader jerseys.

I personally don't have an issue with it, it is no different to wearing a football top, it supports the team, and in Team Sky's case, supports British Cycling. You can't wear these outfits when racing, unless of course you actually are part of that team.

Rapha Condor JLT had an interesting concept, they allowed you to be an official rider, if you paid your membership, you could wear their kit at races.

posted by madonepro [7 posts]
29th January 2014 - 3:10

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i find some of these posts totally brilliant .

For me it comes down to this, do you wear a rugby team shirt when you go to one of your teams games? yes....

Do you wear a rugby team shirt when your playing for your own team? No.

When im training i wear a rugby team shirt but would i wear it out in "public", NO BLOODY WAY",

So with this i saw.
Wear team kit when you go to support TDF ect, DONT wear kit in races(most of the time its banned anyway)

and dont wear it when your training, it makes it hard to spot real pros and mainly you look stupid esp when your belly overhangs the bars in team sky kit.

Sorry all you mid 40 somethings going through mid life crisis Smile

posted by blablablacksheep20 [42 posts]
29th January 2014 - 14:04

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blablablacksheep20 wrote:

Sorry all you mid 40 somethings going through mid life crisis Smile

The solution for the more mature rider is to wear age appropriate team kit.

If you're in your 40s and wearing Banesto who is to know whether the greying, slightly overweight rider was not a former team mate of Big Mig?

When I'm out in my Flandria jersey I can see people thinking, 'is it Walter Godefroot or perhaps Erik de Vlaeminck?'

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posted by Crosshouses [142 posts]
30th January 2014 - 12:40

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