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so... I have designed my own road bike, and to be honest I'm damn happy about how it turned out. and in my opinion it looks awesome, but now I'm considering if I should make it! I have contacted Motorsport carbon fibre companies about the moulds and a carbon weaving company in the UK and they seem happy to do it but.... and yes a BIG BUT..... it will cost well over £200,000 to make just one!! CRAZY!  13 I have the money, but what do you think about the design? too much? need more? teak something? and if you could would you do it yourself?! I'd love to know, and how you would start to make your dream bike!  38

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William Black [193 posts] 2 years ago
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That is one utterly gopping bike.

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bashthebox [751 posts] 2 years ago
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Pahaha.

Erm...

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jezzzer [329 posts] 2 years ago
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i think you should *definitely* build it. then send it in for review.

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Leviathan [1865 posts] 2 years ago
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Interestinging, what is the purpose of the cranked rear stays? I think the name/logos could be worked on; you might get trouble from some pesky car company; unless you could get them to finance it. Or for £200,000 you could learn how to build it yourself. Finally just buy the most expensive TT bike you can find and buy me a Canyon CF SLX 6.0 with Sram red in black on black 56cm frame with your spare cash, save a bit of time.  4

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felixcat [458 posts] 2 years ago
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Build it yourself. Google is your friend.

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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that's the problem I cant build it myself as the carbon fibre weave is manufactured in a different way and professionally done, the logos no problem I have licensing to use Lamborghini's name which was a ball ache!

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bashthebox [751 posts] 2 years ago
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Could you not have licensed their logo too? I mean, since you're throwing all this cash about and all.

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giobox [355 posts] 2 years ago
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Not sure I understand... Why bother branding it Lamborghini at all if they are not involved with the project? Seems odd.

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William Black [193 posts] 2 years ago
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bashthebox wrote:

Could you not have licensed their logo too? I mean, since you're throwing all this cash about and all.

I don't think you can import logos into Microsoft Paint.

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joemmo [1157 posts] 2 years ago
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Tremendous. You've got 2 out of the 3 dimensions absolutely nailed, just need to work on that tricky third one.

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farrell [1950 posts] 2 years ago
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This is fucking brilliant.

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jova54 [648 posts] 2 years ago
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Should this thread not be in Fantasy Cycling?

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Yorkshie Whippet [515 posts] 2 years ago
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Right, so you got a 2-D echa-scetch and wish to know why it's so expensive or difficult.

As said before, need to create a 3-D "blueprint" by someone who knows what they are doing. Are you using 3K,12K or unidirectional weave? What Toray rating? Nanotubes?

Transfer this into a seriously powerful CAD package that can workout the stresses on the frame. This needs to be programmed with the relavent stress factors of the carbon weave and resins you wish to use to allow a "correct" lay up to be designed in.

Chuck said design through another programme to work out airflows etc and return to original programme to recheck the strength of any aero changes. And repeat until the bike is light enough, strong enough and areo enough for you.

These dimensions are then transfered into the build of a one-off mould and bladder set up. The carbon sheets are then cut to size, layered and shaped as required before cooking in a pressurized oven. And that's before the first prototype can be test to destruction. All the data is then fed back in the computer packages for any changes to be made. The first mould and bladder are thrown away and fresh one made. Repeat until the frame is strong enough/light enough to take the punishment. Don't forget to through in a wind tunnel or two.

End result is lot's of trashed frames, moulds and bladders and one ridable frame.

Now I know very little of the actual processes involved other than the very basics as above, but that could be why it's so expensive and difficult.

Looking at what you done, I'd say it's illegal for UCI events as it can not conform to the 3:1 ratio and be aerodynamic or light enough. The kink in the top tube looks to be a useless stress point and probably would get in the way of the rider.

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Leviathan [1865 posts] 2 years ago
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cjjones wrote:

that's the problem I cant build it myself as the carbon fibre weave is manufactured in a different way and professionally done, the logos no problem I have licensing to use Lamborghini's name which was a ball ache!

Really? Well if that is the case then Lambo are the best people to ask as I don't doubt they use CF in their cars. If you have to go it alone here is some inspiration as to what is possible, only 11pounds:

http://theawesomer.com/blackbraid-bicycle/219783/

or just any of this lot: http://theawesomer.com/?s=carbon+bike

At least some of these aren't really off the shelf, still cheaper, don't forget the Canyon for me please.  3

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Leviathan [1865 posts] 2 years ago
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cjjones wrote:

that's the problem I cant build it myself as the carbon fibre weave is manufactured in a different way and professionally done, the logos no problem I have licensing to use Lamborghini's name which was a ball ache!

Really? Well if that is the case then Lambo are the best people to ask as I don't doubt they use CF in their cars. If you have to go it alone here is some inspiration as to what is possible:

http://theawesomer.com/?s=carbon+bike

At least some of these aren't really off the shelf, still cheaper, you could always get in touch with these small manufacturers. That £200K is feeling heavy in your pocket. Don't forget the Canyon for me please.  3

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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I've been to Lamborghini direct in Italy! and they said they will not do anything as they all ready have a partnership with BMC! and your obsessed with the canyon  10 but saying that I've already ordered a "Speedmax CF" and "Aeroad 9.0 Team"

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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YES! I have! but I can only use it 3 times on the bike, which is plenty!

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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which one is the third one?  13

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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I did want to involve them but they cant do anything/ don't want to as they have partnered up with BMC so they aren't interested!! but they do want to see the final finished bike before it is shown!

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bashthebox [751 posts] 2 years ago
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I wanna see your bike collection. You got a pic? Sounds incredible!

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Leviathan [1865 posts] 2 years ago
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cjjones wrote:

your obsessed with the canyon  10

Well with £200K to spare it couldn't harm to ask. It is always good to help the under privileged.

CJ, don't know which is the 'third one' but click on the awesomer link for more details of some funky carbon bikes and designers. The stealth aero bike with the angled tubes is particularly nice.

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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one of my ambitions in life is to help people, people in need so yes I do help the under privileged people but donating £1 million a year to various charities! so I'm not exactly horrible haha and the bike will be special and one of a kind.... that's a promise! especially as it wont just be normal carbon fibre! it will be a special mixture...... but not telling what one  10

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giff77 [1220 posts] 2 years ago
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Think the third one is something to do with dimensions......

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cjjones [11 posts] 2 years ago
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for my height and the way I want it to look and perform I think its perfect!

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joemmo [1157 posts] 2 years ago
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I was inspired to have a crack at this myself, like you say - how hard can it be? Turns out, it's a piece of cake in photoshop. Pretty sure that's what they use for CNC and all that.

Anyway, I'm fairly certain I'm on to something big here so perhaps we could form a sort of Dragon's Den style partnership? With my paradigm smashing innovation and your apparent willingness to throw cash at frankly insane projects I reckon we could really disrupt the market. What do you say?

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drfabulous0 [409 posts] 2 years ago
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joemmo wrote:

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That's awesome, way nicer than cjjones' bike.

But seriously if you draw some angles on that crap sketch of a hideous road bike thing then Asiabike would probably build it for you a lot cheaper, wouldn't care about licensing, and it wouldn't be any worse.

Then you could waste your ridiculous disposable income on something more worthwhile, like snorting coke off hookers' tits. What are you a banker or a politician?

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joemmo [1157 posts] 2 years ago
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That's a bit unnecessary. If you're so fabulous and also a doctor, why don't you put your mouse where you're mouth is and design your own too?

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arrieredupeleton [575 posts] 2 years ago
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That blackbraid site SCREAMS midlife crisis!

Nothing inherently wrong with your toptube mr jones. Look seem to think their's works OK.

Yorkshire Whippet's being a bit tough on the UCI 3:1 ratio thing. How does he know you frame isn't 9 inches wide?

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Super Domestique [1596 posts] 2 years ago
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Taking this as genuine, why not put some money into starting your own bike company?

That's what I'd do.

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Cridge [5 posts] 2 years ago
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Perhaps the angled top tube will reduce the structural strength of the bike under use (depending in the tube jointing process?) and irrespective of the dimensions of the graphic, it looks good. Do you have an idea for the componentry etc? If I had the money then I wouldn't be happy with an off the shelf bike, the only criticism would be the branding.

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