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New Ultegra R8000 has landed, but here's why you might want the existing version… and it's a bargain right now

We told you earlier in the week that Shimano is launching its new Ultegra R8000 groupset, but should you think about getting hold of existing Ultegra 6800 while stocks last?

Check out the new Ultegra R8000 groupset here.

Here are the potential advantages.

Cost

First, and most obviously, there’s the cost.

Chain Reaction Cycles, for example, is currently selling the Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset for £499.99 (compared to the RRP of £952.99). That comprises the chainset, dual control shifters, brakes, derailleurs, cassette, chain, bottom bracket.

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - crank

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - crank

The RRPs on that lot for new Ultegra R8000 are:

Component price
Chainset £249.99
Dual control shifters (mechanical/rim brake) £319.99
Brakes (dual pivot, pair) £139.98
Front derailleur £49.99
Rear derailleur £84.99
Cassette £74.99
Chain £34.99
Bottom bracket £29.99
Total £984.91

 

You can get Ultegra R8000 for quite a bit less than list price already, but you’re not going to get it for £500.

Read our Beginner's guide to groupsets here.

Weight

Shimano boasts that, “At its lightest set up (Di2 with mechanical braking) Ultegra R8000 weighs 4,071g, which is an 84.5g saving over Ultegra 6800.”

Okay, but that 84.5g saving includes wheels and pedals, and many people will already have favourite wheels and pedals.

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - rear brake.jpg

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - rear brake.jpg

In some formats, outgoing Ultegra 6800 is actually a little lighter than incoming Ultegra R8000.

If you want mechanical shifting and rim brakes, for example, this is how the two systems compare (according to Shimano’s own figures):

  Ultegra 6800 Ultegra R8000
Chainset (50-34T) 676g 674g
Dual control shifters (mech) 425g 438g
Brakes (rim) 335g 360g
Front derailleur (braze on) 89g 92g
Rear derailleur 195g 200g
Cassette (11-25) 232g 232g
Chain (114 links) 257g 257g
Bottom bracket 63g 63g
Total 2,272g 2,316g

So in that setup Ultegra 6800 is 44g lighter.

Weight certainly isn’t the be all and end all – function is way more important – and 44g is negligible anyway, but the point we’re making is simply that you’re not necessarily going to save grams by going for Ultegra R8000.

Check out our guide to Shimano groupsets.

Ultegra 6800 is well-proven

Ultegra 6800 is an excellent groupset; check out our review here.

road.cc’s Dave Atkinson said, “The bottom line is: for the serious fitness rider or privateer racer, as a package, this is as good as a mechanical groupset has ever been.”

We’ve used Ultegra 6800 loads since that review was written and we stand by the view that, “As a whole package… Shimano Ultegra 6800 is everything you want from a mechanical performance groupset. It's light, the shifts are crisp and quick, the braking is truly excellent.”

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - rear mech.jpg

Shimano Ultegra 6800 groupset - rear mech.jpg

It has proven to be durable too.

Knowing Shimano, Ultegra R8000 is likely to be equally impressive, but we know for sure that Ultegra 6800 is a fantastic option.

Fair enough, you might want some of the new features that Ultegra R8000 offers (go to our previous story to read all about those). Dual pivot brakes with enough clearance for 28mm tyres might be important to you, for example, or you might really like the new hoods and levers design of the R8000 dual control shifters.

If you’re not interested in those features, though, Ultegra 6800 remains an outstanding groupset.

[This article was last updated on October 17, 2017]

Mat has worked for loads of bike magazines over 20+ years, and been editor of 220 Triathlon and Cycling Plus. He's been road.cc technical editor for eight years, testing bikes, fettling the latest kit, and trying out the most up-to-the-minute clothing. We send him off around the world to get all the news from launches and shows too. He has won his category in Ironman UK 70.3 and finished on the podium in both marathons he has run. Mat is a Cambridge graduate who did a post-grad in magazine journalism, and he is a past winner of the Cycling Media Award for Specialist Online Writer.

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handlebarcam [1060 posts] 6 months ago
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I bought up a load of 6600 and 7800 parts when prices dropped after 6700 and 7900 were released. Never regretted it and still don't - even one extra cog at the rear is a gain so marginal it isn't worth paying hundreds of pounds for.

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Chris Hayes [174 posts] 6 months ago
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I've just switched from Dura Ace 7700 to 6800 and the difference is incredible: smoother, better changing, and most of all braking which allows faster, but safer descending.  Should have done it earlier.  Will now buy a SC rear mech and extra cassettes....

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srchar [705 posts] 6 months ago
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Why would you stock up on Ultegra when there's Potenza?  1

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turboprannet [280 posts] 6 months ago
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srchar wrote:

Why would you stock up on Ultegra when there's Potenza?  1

Although they're around the same price - you need to factor in new wheels (because freehub) and tools etc.