• Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks ago'I know I'm going to get shot

    'I know I'm going to get shot down here but the "Red and Green" comment I totally support.'

    This. Idiot cyclists give us a far worse name than Clarkson et al could ever manage.

  • Surly Straggler1 year 21 weeks agoLove (and covet) Surly bikes.

    Love (and covet) Surly bikes. I think it's interesting that their customer base are ultra-loyal and they have a great reputation for solidly built machines with no corners cut, sold through reputable dealers.

    Similar in that respect (and the steel) then to Genesis, but I'd agree with Rory above that there is more of a trail focus in the Straggler than the CdF. I suppose where Genesis make bikes that retain a road focus and track their lineage from proper racing rigs, Surly are a little closer to producing what their end user actually needs.

    Nothing wrong with either approach and both make lovely machines. I want one of these though (albeit w/flip-flop fixed/ss setup).

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoI suppose it could have been

    I suppose it could have been worse based on my low expectations but still cringed at people laughing at mangled bikes given all the killings we've had recently. The fact is there'll be plenty of nobs shouting "work harder" etc at commuters this morning instead of "pay road tax".

    I'm a big fan of Boardman but he needs to make a statement today or he risk looking stupid imho

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoTop gear is a joke. Have they

    Top gear is a joke. Have they ever treated any subject seriously on that show? The format has been the same for years. The only change is its presenter's ageing. The facial expressions And comments Of boardman and co did nothing to endear cyclists to non cycling motorists.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoI'm glad I didn't see it. But

    I'm glad I didn't see it. But I hate Clarkson anyway.

  • Could you help me out?1 year 21 weeks ago+1. Best of luck with your

    +1. Best of luck with your assignment.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoHere is a picture of a cat.

    Here is a picture of a cat.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoThe show did prove one thing

    The show did prove one thing (as if it needed proving) - that Clarkson/May are a complete NOBs and that Top Gear is to motoring as the Daily Mail is to journalism.

  • Campagnolo record mechanical vs Athena EPS1 year 21 weeks agoYeah I am still reluctant to

    Yeah I am still reluctant to go with electronic as it is still so new. Record looks gorgeous if I could afford it I would get record

  • Could you help me out?1 year 21 weeks agoDone, good luck

    Done, good luck

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoI've just watched it and felt

    I've just watched it and felt it was an opportunity missed. Yeah I know some of it was intended to be satire but you just have to look at how many people repost The Onion or Daily Currant satirical stuff as fact to realise that sometimes subtlety doesn't cut it. If more people got satire Snopes.com would have far fewer stories to look into!
    No big surprise that Clarkson was keen to point out that every single car driver they came across seemingly behaved themselves and it was the big, bad public transport that caused all the problems. Again sweeping generalisations either on the show or on this site (which is either that all drivers are prospective candidates for sainthood (Top Gear) or that they are all maniacs who set out to purposely kill as many cyclists as possible (some of the contributors on here)) were not challenged and as Top Gear is in a prime position to reach out to many drivers as possible it was a wasted chance- the simple message that not all cyclists are red-light jumping clichés, just as everyone behind the wheel of a vehicle with an engine is not a powderkeg of fury about to be unleashed on cyclists would have done a lot more. And while they probably did intend that message to be got across in what they did I go back to my original point-sometimes subtlety is not enough and can go on to be used to justify prejudices that inspire bad actions. (It was also noticeable that the issue of lorries was totally absent).

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoI did like the "cyclists need

    I did like the "cyclists need to learn the difference between red and green" and also the Lance poster.

    I think only one person has come out of this looking bad. Chris Boardman.

    We all know by now what Clarkson will be like, but Boardman sat there, said nothing, is sh*t at acting and got paid for it....He needs a good slap around the face and told to wise the f*ck up.

    He wants to be this "leader" of cyclists...not a hope in hell now. I've noticed the tone on twitter was pretty damming of his involvement with this.

    All in all, I saw the funny side of it. I liked 2/5 of their informational videos. If you take Top Gear seriously, then you need to take a long hard look in the mirror....

  • Strade Bianche Rider List1 year 21 weeks agoThanks for clearing that up,

    Thanks for clearing that up, mate. Who turns that feature on or off? I'd like to start looking at what the values are and start building a team.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoYou can wear normal

    You can wear normal clothes!

    Buses are the enemy!

    Sometimes you should cut the red wire!

    To be fair they extraced the precise amount of urine required.

    Had me in stitches!

  • Jeremy Clarkson takes to the streets of London on a bike - but it looks like his hi viz is going back to the shop1 year 21 weeks agodon simon wrote: Could have

    don simon wrote:

    Could have been worse.
    Keep your eyes open and be courteous (applies to all road users).
    Turning right is a danger spot.
    Bus drivers are tw*ts.
    Nobody likes a red light jumper.
    More people cycling will ultimately reduce congestion.

    All done in the unique TG style.


    Yup, totally. Was pleasantly surprised, actually. What, did anyone expect a sanctimonious lecture about being nice to each other and not breaking any traffic laws etc.? Nobody would watch that. What they did was use their usual easily digested entertainment format to simply plant a few helpful ideas in the heads of motorists, made palatable by first addressing their prejudices with satire and ending with the imperative to give 6 feet of space. It was good work. We need more of that.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoClarkson, Hammond & May are

    Clarkson, Hammond & May are well past their use by date when it comes to comedy value.

    The "right turn" danger as shown, was useful to highlight to the public how dangerous it is for cyclists to go right at a junction like that. Maybe they'll keep that in mind next time they see a cyclist do something similar. I did wholeheartedly agree about bus drivers. They are a menace to road users (not limited to cyclists only).

    I thought the "Lance Armstong" gag was funny, but that was about it.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoSorry, can't agree with the

    Sorry, can't agree with the response here at all.

    Yes, they rehashed the same old jokes - as satire. I thought that was pretty obvious. And they ended the segment with what's probably the most important message to their petrol head audience: be considerate, give enough room.

    They also included a lot of the things drivers would do well to remember (e.g. more cyclists = fewer cars) cleverly disguised in their jokes.

    All in all I was both moderately amused and happy with the outcome - which is totally not what I expected from a show like Top Gear. It's a small step, but a good one IMHO.

  • Chris Boardman to assess Jeremy Clarkson's cycling safety public information film on Sunday's Top Gear1 year 21 weeks agoActually ... hmm. Weird.

    Actually ... hmm. Weird. Maybe that's just me, but I actually thought it was really good. All the main clichés were addressed with a more than obvious tongue in cheek, and the end bit was hammering home the message to be considerate of cyclists and to give them enough room, even if only for the simple reason they're not out to annoy you, the motorist, but actually making your life easier by not clogging up the streets with even more cars.

    Having never seen Top Gear before and only knowing about Clarkson from his recent tirades on Twitter, this made me revise my opinion of him quite a bit.

    In fact I think we, the cyclists, need more of this: more presence, more normalisation.

    *thumbs up*

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agototally agree nuclear coffee

    totally agree nuclear coffee

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoLance Armstrong joke was good

    Lance Armstrong joke was good Devil

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoI know I'm going to get shot

    I know I'm going to get shot down here but the "Red and Green" comment I totally support. I've been stopped at a red light (on my bike) and cringed with a mixture of fear, embarrassment and anger at the stupid riders who have come passed me and weaved through oncoming and crossing traffic rather than wait the 30 seconds for the lights to change and then caught and passed those same riders within a couple of minutes, and they couldn't understand what they had done wrong when I had a go at them Thinking At Wits End

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoIt was such an opportunity.

    It was such an opportunity. And they might, just might have taken it - there was after all a 'race' across London from Richmond to City Airport when Hammond on a Specialized Sirrus beat May in a car, Clarkson in a boat and Stig on the Tube.

    I own two cars and four bikes, I love driving, I love cycling, I just wanted it to be funny.

    It wasn't.

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoCome on, did none of you

    Come on, did none of you laugh at the Lance Armstrong gag?
    I also thought the red/green was funny too.
    Lighten up everyone!

  • Top Gear on Cycling: Well, what did you expect?1 year 21 weeks agoJesus christ this is

    Jesus christ this is predictable. Not the show (well, to a degree, yes the show) but the response.

    I'm sorry but you're a bit thick if you can't notice when someone known to play an idiot persona for the sake of a laugh a lot of the time... is playing an idiot persona for the sake of a laugh. Taking what they say literally to make a point makes you look a cnut.

    This is Daily Mail quality journalism.

  • Chris Boardman to assess Jeremy Clarkson's cycling safety public information film on Sunday's Top Gear1 year 21 weeks agoandyp wrote:'As far as I am

    andyp wrote:
    'As far as I am aware, a jury would not paid a handsome wage via a tax on virtually everyone in the country'

    Stopped reading at that point. It's really not a tax, now, is it. It's an optional payment, which you only need make if you use the product.

    Try telling that to Crapita, who constantly harass any household that does not buy a TV Licence. They just cannot believe you can live without a TV.
    Stopped watching Top Gear long ago, it's the same script every week, slightly different cars, slightly different countries that they are sent to at TV Licence payers expense, to take the piss out of "foreigners" and drive cars nobody can afford.
    Is it me? I just want to punch Clarkson in that wrinkled face. At Wits End