• Olympic Road Race: Vinokourov beats Uran to gold in two way tussle as big breakaway stays clear1 year 37 weeks agoI like Vino. No aero helmet,

    I like Vino. No aero helmet, no skinsuit, no plan, just balls. He tried in the TDF, and this time it paid off. Chapeau.

  • Will Cancellara be fit for TT after fall?1 year 37 weeks agothe road race may have

    the road race may have actually helped him if his body recovers from the hard day well.

  • Olympic women's road race: Marianne Vos holds off Lizzie Armitstead to win gold1 year 37 weeks agoWell done Lizzie!

    Well done Lizzie!

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agobyke.com.au wrote: To

    byke.com.au wrote:

    To announce to the world in advance that there was only a Plan A, and then expect every other country not to plan accordingly suggests Team GB might have been a bit too cocky.

    Run the same tactics ten times and Cav would no doubt win sometimes. But a bit naive to think it was going to work every time. And a bit childish to bitch and moan when it didn't.

    Here here! Exactly what I said yesterday. Team GB ran a terrible race in light of the fact they had no plan B. Cav or Wiggins should have taken the role of quarterback and called an audible as we like to say here in the Colonies. Send Froome up the road and guaranteed the other countries would pick up the front end of the gruppo.

  • Olympic Road Race1 year 37 weeks agoGo Lizzie go LizzieGo Lizzie

    Go Lizzie go LizzieGo Lizzie go Lizzie Go Lizzie go LizzieGo Lizzie go Lizzie Big Grin

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agocould have done with some

    could have done with some decent camera men too.. too often the image was too dark, too far away, not showing anything of any interest, lots of helicopter shots showing nothing etc etc

  • Olympic Road Race: Vinokourov beats Uran to gold in two way tussle as big breakaway stays clear1 year 37 weeks agoI know Renshaw wasn't in the

    I know Renshaw wasn't in the team, but thats a longstanding political issue - the fact is that they could have brought him and mounted a serious challenge if they had the belief. If it'd had been the last Olympics I'd agree that putting O'Grady out there might have been a goer, but he's half a decade past his sell by and was not going to medal in this company. Goss is currently a much better rider and had a realistic chance of silver at least.

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agoIf during a stage of the TdF

    If during a stage of the TdF Team Sky had a rider off the front of the peleton their remaining riders wouldn't work to bring the breakaway back to the bunch.

    Why did Team GB expect teams like Australia would here?

    To announce to the world in advance that there was only a Plan A, and then expect every other country not to plan accordingly suggests Team GB might have been a bit too cocky.

    Run the same tactics ten times and Cav would no doubt win sometimes. But a bit naive to think it was going to work every time. And a bit childish to bitch and moan when it didn't.

  • Olympic Road Race: Vinokourov beats Uran to gold in two way tussle as big breakaway stays clear1 year 37 weeks agoI'm surprised nobody has

    I'm surprised nobody has suggested Mick Rogers should have worked like Britain's sixth member, Bernard Eisel, to get Cavedish to the line. Or that it was a conspiracy that Australia didn't select Richie Porte, because he could have worked to get Cav to the line as well…

    Morpheus00 wrote:
    I get non sprinter teams not riding the break down, but with Gerrans, Renshaw and Goss the Aussies could have represented a massive threat instead of just being also rans.

    Renshaw wasn't in the team. A couple of handy riders in Cadel Evans and Mick Rogers were though.

    O'Grady was going to have at least as much chance of getting Gold (and probably even medalling) with a Vinokourov-like opportunistic breakaway a few km from the end as Goss was going to have in a bunch sprint with Cav, Greipl, Sagan et al. Whilst it didn't come off it was a much better Plan B than Team GB's…

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agowhat a complete fudge-up this

    what a complete fudge-up this brilliant GB Team strategy was!

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agothe whole thing was a

    the whole thing was a complete shambles imo. That bloody Hugh Porter is an absolute tool!

  • More than 100 cyclists arrested near Olympic Park1 year 37 weeks agoI had thought about joining a

    I had thought about joining a CM ride but if the sole intention is to get in peoples way I can't see the point. I'd rather join a ride that encourages non-cyclists to have an enjoyable ride in London.

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agoI don't think it's as simple

    I don't think it's as simple as 'stop blaming the other nations'. Road racing is highly tactical and there's always an element of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend' amongst the pro teams. All Team GB are saying is that they expected a certain set of tactics to apply which would have involved other nations and it didn't pan out. Apart from Cav of course - I love him to bits but he doesn't half get in a strop when he's disappointed. Smile

  • Olympic Road Race: Vinokourov beats Uran to gold in two way tussle as big breakaway stays clear1 year 37 weeks agoSakurashinmachi

    Sakurashinmachi wrote:

    Cavendish is a great sprinter, but why do so many Brits appear to think that it was the Germans, Australian's et al's role to pace him to the Mall?

    Who thinks that? But it WAS their role to try and win it rather than just seeing that Cav didn't- and that meant working to bring the break back.

  • Olympic cycling for the betting inclined1 year 37 weeks agoPlenty of 'Vino's' all round

    Plenty of 'Vino's' all round !!

  • Olympic cycling for the betting inclined1 year 37 weeks agoAnyone "Get the drinks

    Anyone "Get the drinks in",last night? (On their winnings)

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agoSorry BOYS ( Team GB Men’s

    Sorry BOYS ( Team GB Men’s cycle team )

    But the views of the Olympic broadcasters /BBC are not necessarily the views of the general public and also other cyclists.

    I am disappointed that the BBC who represent us can verbally round on Team GB Cyclists who they suggest have let the country down for not winning what 'they' considered a guaranteed Gold medal in the Men’s road race .

    What Team GB (Sky) have proven in the last month how with constant information via race radio that they can; and do respond to the ever present danger of breakaways and will ride accordingly; making constant calculations in order to pull the leaders back.

    If it is necessary point the finger of blame then lets look at the race radio coverage and lack of depth and bredth in the broadcasters used by the BBC.

    Why did they not use the tried and tested method which our European neighbours use - if anyone new to the sport was to watch say the TDF they might be overwhelmed by constant reminders in the corner of the screen of the race leader/peloton times. Wondering why we need all this ‘superfluous’ information. It is because it is NOT superfluious and is an integral part of the race strategy

    How many times have we heard the dulcet tones of Sean Kelly - who by the way has the depth and bredth which I mentioned earlier, saying during a race that the team will be' making the calculations’? Indicating that the cyclists are aware of the danger i.e the distance of the breakaway -and also the distance left within the race to catch them. A team leader will then vector in the time, the distance, and the power required to bridge the gap, and increase their speed and power output accordingly. If the team were denied access to this information via Olympic race radio how can they make these calculations.?

    Some people have said that the lack of information was the same for every rider so effectively it was an even playing field. No not at all , the lack of regular time checks played into the hands of the strong breakaway contenders since it gave them an advantage which they do not usually have during well organised rides. Taking nothing away from the Gold won by Alexandr Vinokurov who rode a very strong race.

    Chapeau to Mark Cavendish, who at the end of a very hard day in the saddle was asked a trite and thoughtless question by a BBC interviewer – Mark I suspect is correct - The BBC interviewer knew little about the sport. Oh top TV last night too, where the BBC had an ex footballer, two ex- track Atheletes and an ex tennis player trying to make sense of the event. Do we not have any specific cycling broadcasters available who might enlighten the public with expert knowledge ??

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agoNeed to stop blaming the

    Need to stop blaming the other nations. Aussies had someone in the break, so did USA, Spain, Holland, Russia, Belgium.... Get the picture. Teams will not chase down their own riders. The break was simply 2 big to control...
    Exception is Germany, but I think the pace of the GB squad throughout the laps killed them off (and the GB guys as well) as they obviously didn't have anything left for the run in. They tried and failed to bring it all back together on the laps... Might have been better to have saved some energy, let the smaller break get a few minutes, then all teams would have helped on the 50k run into the finish.
    Game plan was a gamble, it failed. GB didn't lose, the breakaway won.... and a wily Vino got a well deserved gold

  • Will Cancellara be fit for TT after fall?1 year 37 weeks agoAll the best to Fab...

    All the best to Fab... wouldn't be a TT if he's not riding.

    "Wiggins... some are concerned that he gave too much of himself yesterday...". Come on, he blew everyone away in the TdF after 3 weeks of pergatory... do you really believe a 5 hour ride on Saturday will overly affect him on Weds? Give the guy some credit.

  • Will Cancellara be fit for TT after fall?1 year 37 weeks agoJust up from the corner, he

    Just up from the corner, he doesn't look happy... https://picasaweb.google.com/111020635431039941596/2012LondonOlympicCycl...

    Of course the autofocus on the camera decided the mechanic was more important!

  • Team GB reflect on how it all went wrong1 year 37 weeks agoI would have thought any

    I would have thought any sprinter, of any nation, would dream of running a bunch sprint down The Mall in an Olympics road race.
    Its obvious that the spiteful bunch in the race yesterday, as Cavendish alluded to, would rather just sit back and not see him win than bother racing.
    Its disappointing more than anything.

  • Olympic Road Race: Vinokourov beats Uran to gold in two way tussle as big breakaway stays clear1 year 37 weeks agoO'Grady came fourth n a

    O'Grady came fourth n a sprint for third against half a group who couldn't be bothered. Unlike the TdF where people race for the minor placings its top 3 or nothing in the Olympics. He was never going to medal against the likes of Sanchez, Vino, Cancellara etc but Australia had so little confidence in Goss being able to win that they chose to roll the dice with the break rather than help bring it back. Personally I'm disappointed for Goss as I thought in a sprint he'd have been a cast iron medal and certainly would have finished higher than 6th but I guess that's the way it goes.

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agoSorry but having watched the

    Sorry but having watched the race I have a lot of sympathy for the commentators. The camera work was poor making it difficult to see rider numbers, there was little or no information available on who was in the break and it did keep chopping and changing between groups making it difficult for me to work out time gaps myself let alone someone also trying to commentate.

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agohow hard is it to have a list

    how hard is it to have a list of rider numbers and names? how hard is it to have a sheet showing the jersey colours of the main contender nations?

    However bad the coverage was you can't excuse poor preparation from the commentator.

  • BBC hit out at lack of timing info at men's road race1 year 37 weeks agoNeed to stop blaming the

    Need to stop blaming the other nations. Aussies had someone in the break, so did USA, Spain, Holland, Russia, Belgium.... Get the picture. Teams will not chase down their own riders. The break was simply 2 big to control...
    Exception is Germany, but I think the pace of the GB squad throughout the laps killed them off (and the GB guys as well) as they obviously didn't have anything left for the run in. They ried and failed to bring it all back together on the laps... Might have been better to have saved some energy, let the smaller break get a few minutes, then all teams would have helped on the 50k run into the finish.
    Game plan was a gamble, it failed. GB didn't lose, the breakaway won.... and a wily Vino got a well deserved gold

    As for commentary, I agree Hugh was very poor. Chris Boardman did a good job, but the number of times Hugh gave wrong detail was awful.... sometimes even with a caption on the screen (which was rare), he still got it wrong!