• Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoCan we start the 2013 season

    Can we start the 2013 season now??? I am missing it already.

    As long as it doesnt become too easy to pick the top nine riders , and few peopled pick similar squads it will be good.

    I liked the way this season it helped if you picked the random riders who won a stage or broke away and just picking the top six in the gc was not always best.

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoenrique wrote: Dave, what are

    enrique wrote:

    Dave, what are your thoughts on the number of Stars for next year? Are you inclined to keep the 4 Star requirement? Can you drop it down to 3 Star Riders, if they're going to be required to be filled? ...

    i'm inclined to drop the split altogether and let everyone pick who they like. the new rider values system will give a more even spread of values so i think more flexibility in who you pick will be necessary. also looking at upping the riders from a single team from 2 to 3

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agocgipryan wrote:What I'm

    cgipryan wrote:
    What I'm saying is that if you organize the rider prices according to their CURRENT form (not last year's form) and especially according to their chances of winning IN THAT PARTICULAR RACE (WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROFILE), we're going to play more against you than against other players. It's like when you bet, where you have two possibilities: a) you bet against the house because you think they've misjudged one rider's odds; b) you play safe by taking one of the the favourites.
    So, basically you're going to make the game easier for everyone by indicating the favourites for that particular race, and you're going to force those who think they know better to take much more chances if they want to beat those who just go with the designated (by you) favorites.
    The idea is precisely that I DON'T want to pick my team randomly (I was 6th in the overall table this year, so I hope my teams weren't picked randomly...). Of course, this is just my impression, it might not be confirmed when this system is actually tested, with actually implemented prices per rider and with the obligation to pick 9 riders effectively taking part in that race...

    i don't think you're quite understanding how it would work. for a start the values will be based on a year of form to the date of the race, not just last year's race. And although the prices will be weighted according to what kind of stages are in the race, neither that nor the year's form will be a perfect indicator of race form. there'll still be bargains, and expensive flops.

    Also, i'm not sure why you think that the riders most likely to win shouldn't be the most expensive? yes you could do okay just picking favourites, but it's not going to get you the win, and anyway you won't be able to just pick all the favourites because you'll run out of cash. the four most expensive stars for a race would likely use up all your budget.

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agocgipryan wrote:What I'm

    cgipryan wrote:
    What I'm saying is that if you organize the rider prices according to their CURRENT form (not last year's form) and especially according to their chances of winning IN THAT PARTICULAR RACE (WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROFILE), we're going to play more against you than against other players. It's like when you bet, where you have two possibilities: a) you bet against the house because you think they've misjudged one rider's odds; b) you play safe by taking one of the the favourites.

    So, basically you're going to make the game easier for everyone by indicating the favourites for that particular race...

    Yeah, I see your point... Anyone can have a pretty decent team if they choose the higher valued riders...

    Then again, you still have to choose your DS's...

    You know, but if that is the case, then I feel more strongly towards limiting the Stars to just 2 or 3... 'Cause it forces, or might force, much more diferent teams than if we have to pick 4 Stars...

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agonickobec wrote:... I do not

    nickobec wrote:
    ... I do not want to see a change to only bank transfers for one day or lose them. It has caused me problems in the past and will in the future, but it makes you study the race route and plan ahead...

    I do want to see a change. I like the flexiblity of using them when you want to, after they've been earmed. I do like the way we accrue them, I just think once you earn them, they should be used at will...

    nickobec wrote:
    ... Not a fan of the 2 riders per team limitation, but see it as necessary evil for TTTs.

    I'd be ok with removing this rule. I mean, you have to deal with the consequences of having them in your roster later... Why not go up to 3 per team?...

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    ... regarding the 4 star/5 DS split... I guess its not so much the rule, its more if you have that rule then you shouldnt have an overlap in values...

    I do think it's the rule... I think there comes a point in every Grand Tour when your Stars won't be the guys scoring the most points and to have to choose 4 Stars hampers you and may prevent you from catching up to the competition leaders, who may be playing it safe at that point in the Tour...

    Sometimes you have to resort to picking someone who will provide you with the certainty of GC points, for example, because you have to have 4 Stars... but as TER says above, you'd have gladly put in a DS...

    I wish, again, that if it's going to be a requirement to have Stars, that the requirement be brought down to 3 Stars or even 2, but I still prefer the flexibility of having the Star restriction be an upper limit and not a requirement...

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    ... that's addressed for 2013; the star riders are the most expensive ones for any given tour.

    Dave, what are your thoughts on the number of Stars for next year? Are you inclined to keep the 4 Star requirement? Can you drop it down to 3 Star Riders, if they're going to be required to be filled? ...

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoWhat I'm saying is that if

    What I'm saying is that if you organize the rider prices according to their CURRENT form (not last year's form) and especially according to their chances of winning IN THAT PARTICULAR RACE (WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROFILE), we're going to play more against you than against other players. It's like when you bet, where you have two possibilities: a) you bet against the house because you think they've misjudged one rider's odds; b) you play safe by taking one of the the favourites.
    So, basically you're going to make the game easier for everyone by indicating the favourites for that particular race, and you're going to force those who think they know better to take much more chances if they want to beat those who just go with the designated (by you) favorites.
    The idea is precisely that I DON'T want to pick my team randomly (I was 6th in the overall table this year, so I hope my teams weren't picked randomly...). Of course, this is just my impression, it might not be confirmed when this system is actually tested, with actually implemented prices per rider and with the obligation to pick 9 riders effectively taking part in that race...

  • Tech Roundup: A turbo to transform winter training, KCNC Ti cables, get your Xmas shopping early, VIVA bikes deals & more1 year 27 weeks agoNot nearly as corny as

    Not nearly as corny as DaBrim.

    Easside da bes.

  • Driver who crushed cyclist spared jail after victim's family forgive him1 year 27 weeks agoKarbon Kev wrote:absolutely

    Karbon Kev wrote:
    absolutely disgusting to let him off so damn lightly. What the family was thinking I don't know, and the driver is his seventies obviously gave everyone a good sob story too.

    Well done judge, you bloody fool ...

    The victim's family were convinced that the driver did not intend to hurt her, so what would be gained by jailing him?

    Why is he any more morally culpable than the thousands of other drivers that day who sped, ran a red light, drove whilst inebriated or whilst using their mobile phone, etc?

    Of all of those drivers who didn't take enough care that day which one is the least likely to ever do so again? Which one now likely poses less danger to other road users than any of the others?

    What's to be gained by locking him up?

  • Driver who crushed cyclist spared jail after victim's family forgive him1 year 27 weeks agoReading the report, the lorry

    Reading the report, the lorry driver made an error of judgement in attempting to reverse his lorry on a major road, especially as it's near a school.

    With no rear visibility to speak of and no-one guiding him back he was acting irresponsibly. He should have continued on and found a safe route back to the turning.

  • Cycle psychologist: Driver aggression still needs to be understood1 year 27 weeks agoI have plenty of experience

    I have plenty of experience cycling in the Netherlands.

    There is absolutely no problem with faster cyclists using their infrastructure. I encountered plenty of 'recreational' cyclists in lycra, travelling at speed, on cycle paths adjacent to major roads. I'm afraid it is a complete myth to say that Dutch infrastructure slows everyone down. It is suitable for everyone; the slow, the old, the young and the fast.

    Creating a 'two-tier' system of provision for 'different' kinds of cyclists actively encourages the construction of the rubbish we see on a day-to-day basis in the UK, because it stems from an assumption that 'slow' cyclists don't mind being held up swerving around lamp posts, and stopping behind bus stops, while 'faster' cyclists are content to continue using the road.

    This has to stop.

  • Another doper1 year 27 weeks agoHe has always denied doping,

    He has always denied doping, but according to wikipedia in 2000 an Italian judge release a report that said that Roche took EPO in 1993, his last year as a professional.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Roche#Alleged_drug_use

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoTERatcliffe26 wrote:I guess

    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    I guess its not so much the rule, its more if you have that rule then you shouldnt have an overlap in values, as imo a rider shouldnt be classed as a star if they are valued at less then a DS as it defeats the object of the split in the first place

    that's addressed for 2013; the star riders are the most expensive ones for any given tour.

  • Another doper1 year 27 weeks agoPurely out of interest, as I

    Purely out of interest, as I have no knowledge of the sport at the time, was Stephen Roche 'clean'?

  • Legal battles could lie ahead for Lance Armstrong as old court cases come under spotlight1 year 27 weeks agoHilarious interview with

    Hilarious interview with Armstrong's lawyer on BBC sport website. When asked whether he was in favour of Lance's accusers taking lie detector tests he said yes. When asked if Lance would take one he suddenly says he is busy and cuts the interview short.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/19941445

  • Bikway: The shortcut to city bike lanes?1 year 27 weeks agoIt's good to hear that

    It's good to hear that someone is looking at innovating new solutions to cycling infrastructure.

    An option that has the potential to reduce cost will certainly appeal to politicians and give highways engineers one argument fewer against sharing road space more equitably.

    It appears to be a pre-formed solid section – I'm wondering how it copes with bends and curves. We don't have many straight roads here in the UK.

  • Cycle psychologist: Driver aggression still needs to be understood1 year 27 weeks agoThere's a lot of ignorant

    There's a lot of ignorant nonsense written about cycling in the Netherlands by people who have never tried it.

    The Dutch have built a fantastic infrastructure. In their urban areas, they have designed routes where cycling will always be more direct and take less time than going by car. Where cycle and motorised traffic cross paths, cycles have priority – reinforced by their strict liability legislation.

    Outside urban areas, they have provided wide cycle tracks, usually parallel to main roads, canals or railway lines.

    Just as in the UK, you wouldn't expect to make fast progress on a road bike in an urban area. Outside the built up areas, cycle traffic is much lighter and it's possible to press on at speed. However, there may be slower cyclists and just like in the UK, a ring on the bell to warn slower riders is usually sufficient warning.

  • Tech Roundup: A turbo to transform winter training, KCNC Ti cables, get your Xmas shopping early, VIVA bikes deals & more1 year 27 weeks agoGreat looking trainers, what

    Great looking trainers, what a crap name! How corny is BKOOL?

    And the helmet visor, really? Can't see them selling many for UK riders somehow. Cripes, it's not even 1st April.

  • Driver who crushed cyclist spared jail after victim's family forgive him1 year 27 weeks agoabsolutely disgusting to let

    absolutely disgusting to let him off so damn lightly. What the family was thinking I don't know, and the driver is his seventies obviously gave everyone a good sob story too.

    Well done judge, you bloody fool ...

  • Legal battles could lie ahead for Lance Armstrong as old court cases come under spotlight1 year 27 weeks agoLondonCalling wrote:This is

    LondonCalling wrote:
    This is starting to look like a persecution!!

    No it really bloody isn't! Persecution was what LA did to Bassons, Simeoni, O'Reilly and many others.

    This? This is called justice. Or perhaps Karma.

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoAgree with nickobec in some

    Agree with nickobec in some respects regarding the 4 star/5 DS split, perfect example was in the Tour of bejing, had Bos worth 10.7 and no other non-sprinters anywhere near in value, yet couldnt transfer him out for the last stage, ideally id have picked a similar priced DS that may have scored, but ultimately couldnt because of the rule.

    I guess its not so much the rule, its more if you have that rule then you shouldnt have an overlap in values, as imo a rider shouldnt be classed as a star if they are valued at less then a DS as it defeats the object of the split in the first place

  • Suggestions for the 2013 season1 year 27 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote: one

    Dave Atkinson wrote:

    one thing i've learned from three years running the game is that some people are really good at it. the rules might change a bit from year to year but it definitely takes skill to win, and that'll be the case next year too.

    Something I have learnt from playing for 2.5 years. Skill = lots of time to researching the riders and race route, understanding the rules and scoring system, planning well ahead and making the right decisions.

    Personally I do not see the need for "Oh crap, picked the wrong DSs for a GT, I need a magic bullet to fix it and be competitive"

    This was my starting line up for the TDF
    Peter Sagan
    Fabian Cancellara
    Edvald Boasson Hagen
    Samuel Dumoulin
    Daryl Impey
    Julien Simon
    Jonathan Cantwell
    Gustav Erik Larsson
    Kris Boeckmans

    I made some bad transfers during week 1, and was outside the top 100. I improved after that, finishing 3rd, I did not win the TdF comp because I picked Pierre Rolland over Thomas Voeckler on Stage 16.

    I do not want to see a change to only bank transfers for one day or lose them. It has caused me problems in the past and will in the future, but it makes you study the race route and plan ahead. Otherwise you reward lazy players with stage wins.

    I would like to see the artificial 4 star 5 DS rule removed because:
    1. It makes the game a little more complex;
    2: Gives players far more options in team strategy and make up.
    3. There have been times I would of preferred 3 stars and a couple of high value DSs, but could not as I need to spend points on a 4th cheap star to fill out the roster. Other times, I could afford 5 or even 6 stars.

    Happy to see the points value of riders change throughout the season, as long as the point cost distribution remains the same.

    Personally I would prefer it if all the riders in a race was magically ranked behind the scenes (so we can't complain Wink and the top rider in a race cost 40 (note all these numbers are just plucked out of the air)) , the 2nd ranked rider 39, the 3rd 38 so on, until in the case of the TDF 179th to 188th ranked riders cost 3.2 and the 189th to 198th ranked riders cost 3 or something similar.

    So some unknown 180th ranked DS worth 3 points rides stunning Tour of Qatar wins a stage, has a couple of top 10 places and then is ranked 30th in a weak field in the Tour of Oman and costs 15 points. Does not do anything special in the Tour of Oman, next is Tour of Flanders, and the field is stronger and the rider is now ranked 90th in the race and cost 6 points. Disastrous classic campaign, overall ranking falls and by the time of the Giro is ranked 130th in the race and worth 4 points.

    Love the idea of a KOM and Points jersey comp for the GT (GC is a bit naff, rewards the safe players, the KOM is for the risk takers and points if awarded in Giro/Vuelta style is for the consistent picker of stage wins, ignoring the safer jersey points and team bonuses etc).

    Not a fan of the 2 riders per team limitation, but see it as necessary evil for TTTs.

  • Driver who crushed cyclist spared jail after victim's family forgive him1 year 27 weeks agoI notice that "road tax"

    I notice that "road tax" turned up in the comments on the Daily Mail site. You can set your watch by it.

  • Another doper1 year 27 weeks agoIt looks like Michael Rogers

    It looks like Michael Rogers was named in the USADA report as well, so I guess he'll be on his way from Sky to some other team with no scruples.

  • Cycle psychologist: Driver aggression still needs to be understood1 year 27 weeks agoQuote:I disagree - I'm with

    Quote:
    I disagree - I'm with the good Dr on this one. I ride to work, with my family and for sport and pointing to Dutch style paths wouldn't be appealing for all these purposes.

    It also rankles when Holland is referenced all the time - yes it has a great infrastructure but its a tiny country with little in common to the UK and Amsterdam is no London.

    Dutch style paths would be perfect for riding to work, riding with family and riding for sport, that is the key to their success. It is a shame that misunderstanding of the Dutch approach is so widespread in the UK. It is a mistake to suggest that there is no one infrastructure solution which is perfect (as far as anything can be perfect) for all cyclists because this infrastructure has been built in The Netherlands already. Unless one has a bizarre ideological attachement to always cycling amongst motor vehicles that is.

    There is nothing so unique about The Netherlands that their approach could not be applied almost identically here.

  • Another doper1 year 27 weeks agoI wonder if Riis has read

    I wonder if Riis has read Nico's piece. His views are admirable but don't seem very compatible with Saxo. Hopefully USADA or another anti-doping agency will be opening an investigation into Riis's past soon.