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Great writeup by demoff.
I was one of the road.cc schwag winners, so thank you to the organisers and Road.cc.
After some debate I decided to take my two young children along. As a result we could only do the 6km ride, as my daughter (who has just turned 7) wouldn't have managed the longer routes on her tiny Cnoc 14. However, they both did a grand job, even though we had to walk the short, steep hill in the middle. They loved it and want to do a longer route next time.
At the finish we all received a t-shirt, a substantial goody bag including a copy of the Comic as well as pasta/M&S sandwich and a medal. The kids were chuffed to bits and both took their medals into school to show them off on Monday.
The Rapha team came past while we were on the climb, followed a few minutes later by the Motorpoint boys, and Ed Clancy gave us a wave. Afterwards we took a look at the Pinarello stand and I explained that the man standing there was the legend that is Malcolm Elliot.
Parking was a nightmare and we repeatedly got sent the wrong way when we were trying to get to the start. I wasn't impressed with the amount of waste produced (pasta plates, plastic packaging etc) but we're all looking forward to doing another one.
@tony_farrelly
A colleague on the Cycling Campaign committee always rides on the pavement up there: it's barely used by pedestrians, and the speed differential is much greater on the uphill side, especially (as you say) as hardly anyone sticks to the 30 limit; this isn't helped by giving the road the appearance of a much faster dual-carriageway. There's no need for it up there, and there could be a protected bike lane instead.
Crashes with no injuries aren't notifiable, which is part of the problem. Not sure how you'd get around that, but it gives a lie to the use of stats to "prove" safety or otherwise of a given piece of road. For one thing: the "hidden road violence" means that the stats are an under-reporting of the real situation; secondly: most people trust their perceptions over statistics anyway; thirdly: you know this, but you can make a road appear safe by discouraging/preventing VRUs from using them. Motorways are statistically very safe for pedestrians, for example.
I thought that too, South Glos Council is going into schools teaching kids how to use them properly....nanny state gone too far in my opinion, why dont parents enjoy teaching their kids to cross roads, ride scooters etc etc?
And a £5 off when you spend £30 voucher in the Daily Star this week!
If the BBC is claiming that simple three wheeled scooters are the favoured form of transport for under 10s, then the BBC is wrong. Most mini scooters for kids have two wheels, not three. Only tots have three wheeler scooters and my younger son abandoned his for a two wheeler when he was five.
Both my sons have two bikes but then they're not your average kids as they've been competing in BMX since they were seven and five respectively.
Its a earlyish Carbon Giant TCR, the cable stop bracket is a double attached via expoxy resin and 2 rivets for reinforcement. Giant changed this on later models to one stop either side of the headtube. On examination by a top mechanic it appears that there has been water ingress under this as there was a white powdery deposit and it would appear that the stress of cable tension changes has caused it to pop off off. The legend that is Edgy has since drilled rivetted and expoxied it back in place.
A bit pricey but good for those who need the one eighth size, I modified my 3/32 by riveting a piece of 1/8th chain to the tool.
@t1mmyb, yes, the pen got hit - the problem there is they've created a choke point at a point where traffic has started to speed up on the flat but with nothing to slow drivers down before they go in to the choke point - so they treat it like a chicane on a race track.
From a cyclists point of view, the bits worse up are nastier though - the central reservation has moved slightly narrowing the southbound lane as it goes up the hill - not enough to slow down the traffic, but enough to constrict space for a cyclist who is stuck between the traffic (none of which is doing 30mph) and the parked cars from the Entry Hill turn off up. I've been shoved to the side of the road twice by lorries on that bit and by the buses diving in to the bus stop - one forced me in to the kerb the other day. The little island further they've built further up is bad too cos traffic on the inner lane is funneled in to the outer at the choke point - I claim my lane, but some drivers who are putting their foot down to go through the gap still aren't going to give it to you. Funnily enough they had one of those signs there which flashed drivers speeds at them and told them to slow down - that worked + must have cost a fraction of the price… but they took it away.
Re the stats - are crashes where there were no injuries notifiable though? Who has those figures?
Sounds fantastic demoff - really glad you enjoyed it.
So, what caused Syd's cable stop bracket to shear off?
I hadn't thought of that, but yep: the new pedestrian cattle pen got hit, didn't it?
Yes: include in the stats crashes where there were no injuries.
What a day there was no option we were doing the big ride from the off. We were parked up a few minutes from the start just after 7am. Fuelled up we were away early doors only for disaster to strike just after 7 miles. As Syd changed back up to the big ring the double cable stop bracket on his downtube sheared off leaving him in 39x12 with no quick fix there was no option other than for him to pack. We were both gutted, my offer to accompany him back was declined and he set off to the start whilst I jumped onto the next group.
Early miles were rolling but nothing too strenuous and allowed for the opportunity of catching some fast wheels.
Shortly after the first drink stop the route split and I settled in for the long haul. As we approached the first KoM climb you could almost feel the groups tense and then like a Medieval army the climbers went forward to attack.
Ramshorn Common was hard but nothing compared to Hollingsclough Moor which was an evil beast coupled with a drop in temperature and a strong wind at times and as expected the toughest climb of the day. The downhill made some amends long and fast and I clocked up 51mph. Lunch was just a few kms further and I was chuffed to get my hands on a coffee and a slab of flapjack.
Refuelled and on my way my chip beeped as we started a climb but there was no KoM signage so it was not until twenty miles on that I had it confirmed that we had done Gun Hill nowhere near as tough as Hollingsclough Moor though.
There was little respite as we made for home with rolling roads and one nasty final short stinger at 85mph. Riding back into Longton park was sweet knowing I had done it and it was made sweeter as I turned a corner to ride the last few hundred metres barriered off leading me to get out of the saddle and sprint for the line. Fantastic to be the other side of the barriers as the spectators banged the boards.
The organisation was spot on with the exception of a few missing KoM signs but some would say not knowing was a blessing. All the food and drink stops were really well stocked with Mule bars, gels, bananas and energy drink.
Route signage was fantastic and clear there was never any cause to think which way you were going.
There were some nice touches the National Escort Group being there was brilliant. We were making our way up a climb when a motorbike slowly eased past all lights flashing made you feel great and we had a Tour Car in front of us on the way in for a short while which was cool as well.
It was a great days riding thanks to the Organisers and RoadCC for the opportunity to take part.
Oh yes my time no official times posted as yet but my computer said 6hours and 45 minutes a tad slower than I wanted but it was one hell of a 100 mile loop.
Pah! It'd still be beautiful + that rear brake mount would surely lend itself to an internally routed cable to keep those clean lines. I'd run a front brake anyway. I don't see why all those bendy bits should compromise the handling- it's straight where it needs to be in terms of power transfer + that hidden brake bridge surely acts as an extra stiffener at the back. I'd give it a go
I feel uneasy making it, but a more apt analogy at least in terms of numbers and risk might be with the Afghan civilian population, last year according to the UN 2412 Afghans were killed in the war out of a population of 33,000,000 while in Britain 2222 people were killed on the roads out of a total road using population of what? 30-40million?
I don't doubt that it's riskier being an Afghan and I'd much rather be living here, but let's not kid ourselves- we accept a level of death and mayhem on the roads which if they occurred in any other areas of our lives would be deemed totally unacceptable. Almost every time your hear a traffic bulletin on the radio, the bit they never mention is that the reason the traffic is delayed is because somebody has died, or been injured - even news radio doesn't tell us that crucial bit of news.
Imagine how differently we'd all react if we heard a traffic bulletin on the radio that said "traffic on the A39 has been held up by a mortar round landing on the eastbound carriageway" even though the end result would probably be the same as if they just used the word "accident" we wouldn't tolearate that going on for very long.
It would be handy for drying towels on in front of the radiator, but that is about as close to being out in public I would get on that contraption...
Here's an idea. Stick some brakes, proper handlebars (ie drops), and decent tyres on it and ride the bloody thing.
Now, what's it like then ?
Antonio - I've been commuting in London by bicycle and motorcycle for 20 years and never yet been shot at. I have been shot at in the past, but not in London. And I live in a part of London where the threat of illegal firearms is perhaps greater than most. I wouldn't for a moment think that you were being facetious.
Think might try a 47 from wiggle.. one down from shimano 48 I take... cheers Si
Don't worry, you can always nudge them helpfully along.
So Google have such insane amounts of cash they can dish £1m out to people who would get laughed out of the Dragon's Den?
Reminds me of the charming huckster who turned up in the Simpsons, 'Maybe it's more of a Shelbyville idea.'
Such a shame. Had a look at the picture of the crash site, and it looks like a great place to ride.
Very true - it all comes back to the good old 'critical mass' or as I think of it, the chicken and the egg problem. The majority of women who won't cycle cite safety as the prime reason they dont want to hop on two wheels. I hate to generalise, but as women are the ones who traditionally decide upon how children get to school, their perception of road safety carries over to the decision to either ferry the kids in the car or let them cycle/walk to school. Of course we all know until more people cycle, this excellent form of transport will not be accepted by other road users as legitimate and so our old friend SMIDSY will linger. On rolls the cycle..
The way to break the deadlock is simple; teach parents that they can ride safely and that their kids can ride safely, even on the road. Reduce urban speed limits and alter the road layout so that the driver is uncertain and therefore more alert. And perhaps ban the Daily Mail from reporting pathetic stories about how unsafe/anti-social/ineffective cycling is. Oh, and as I'm here, slap those people in the council who send open minded parents letters for letting their kids walk to school/the bus stop on their own.
My two kids are fortunate to have a 10 minute walk to school, though they love riding their bikes. The estate, built in the 70s & 80s, has good walking and cycling access though some parents drive surprisingly short distances to drop their children off, causing additional congestion around the front gate and along the narrow lane at the front of the school.
Despite being included in the Sustrans Bike It scheme the school has shown very little enthusiasm for the activities or interest in boosting the numbers on bikes. The response in some of the other primary schools around Shrewsbury has been excellent, with many more children riding regularly.
OK, enough axe grinding...
We live less than 3 miles from the two catchment secondary schools so there is no bus provision (routes go into town, not round the periphery). The children have to make their own way there.
t1mmyb you mean like riding up the Wellsway since the latest council "improvements"? I totally agree with Freewheeler about that, but does he suggest a way that it can be managed other than by scrolling through helmet cam footage?
Sounds like brilliant fun... may try it meself next year!
Despite all the juggling with numbers, percentages, probable cause, areas most at risk, the hard fact is it would seem to be safer as a British soldier in Aghanistan than a commuter on the roads of Britain.
PAVEMENT TAX and PEDESTRIANS
What i would like to know is this. If drivers think they pay for roads and the right to use them, who do they think pays PAVEMENT TAX? and why don't pedestrians walk around with Pavement Tax discs on their foreheads?