- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agostep-hent wrote:mikroosstep-hent wrote:mikroos wrote:
Pathetic tactics by Gerrans. Winning in this kind of style will never win him any respect from me.
I couldn't disagree more. I'm a massive Cancellara fan, but the only way to beat him is to make him do the work. Gerrans played it perfectly - he knew Cancellara would work to have a chance in the sprint, so he was able to sit on and play the tactical game. I love to see anyone win in style, but these sorts of tactical wins keep everything interesting. If it was all massive attacks and solo victories then the massive attacks and solo victories wouldn't have nearly as much value...
Totally agree. Great race, Spartacus was the strongest, no doubt, but the strongest do not always win, that is what makes cycling so special!
- Milan - San Remo1 year 38 weeks agoI'm home again, saw bits and
I'm home again, saw bits and pieces of highlights, Sky tactics = HUGE FAIL
- Volta Ciclista a Catalunya1 year 38 weeks agoSamuel Sanchez
Samuel Sanchez (EUS)
Alejandro Valverde (MOV)
Rigoberto Uran (SKY)
Luis Leon Sanchez (RAB)
Francesco Gavazzi (AST)
Sylvester Szmyd (LIQ)
Daniel Navarro (SAX)
Brice Feillu (SAU)
Tom Jelte Slagter (RAB)
should be 147 in total
- Milan - San Remo1 year 38 weeks agoShocking that Sky dropped all
Shocking that Sky dropped all their riders to help cav..
Eddy needs to find himself a team that actually will help him, and not just pretend he is a captain..
- Milan - San Remo1 year 38 weeks ago1, 4, 11 for me. I dithered
1, 4, 11 for me. I dithered over swapping cancellera for cav. Should have so listened to my gut and did gone ahead and ditched cav. Now kicking myself. Hoping I caan maintain the advances I've made and even build on them
- Volta Ciclista a Catalunya1 year 38 weeks agofew changes to my lineup
few changes to my lineup seeing as wiggo cba
Rigoberto Uran (SKY)
Alejandro Valverde (MOV)
Levi Leipheimer (OPQ)
David Moncoutie (COF)
Tom Jelte Slagter (RAB)
Martin Kohler (BMC)
Mehdi Sohrabi (LOT)
Richie Porte (SKY)
Nairo Quintana (MOV)
although you can guarantee he wins it now ive dropped him
- Volta Ciclista a Catalunya1 year 38 weeks agoMikeh789 wrote:HereMikeh789 wrote:
Bradley Wiggins Sky 38.4
Joaquin Rodriguez Kat 39.2
Thomas de Gendt VCD 18.4
Alejandro Valverde MOV 28.3
Sylvester Szmyd LIQ 7.0
Mehdi Sohrabi LOT 2.6
Nicki Sorensen SAX 6.5
Luis Angel Mate COF 6.5
Martijn Keizer VCD 2.9
As far as im aware Rodriguez is no longer riding if you wanna change him
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoyou have to be good to get in
you have to be good to get in with a chance though. the last few km are a game of chess.
even things like motor racing, you attack at the right moment. you have to be in it to win it. out of 180 men? only 3-5 could have won it. dont think people should beat down on him, if YOU were following Fabian what would you do?
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoThere's an interesting review
There's an interesting review of the race on The Inner Ring, as ever, which includes this:
"The ranking system incentivises certain behaviours, in this case it’s better for Cancellara to ride to a certain third place or better than risk being swamped by the chase and losing the valuable points."
I didn't know this but I was thinking about what else Cancellara could have done to win once he was in the final break. Not much I think, except perhaps sit up and not pull a faster sprinter to the finish - after all he might fancy his chances in a bunch sprint more than the other two - he was 4th in the World Championships in a full on flat bunch sprint.
One of the things I am learning to appreciate though is the way that riders often have to make the best of the way the cards fall - whether it's burying yourself in the service of a doomed break or doing more than your share of the work to tow a faster man to the line. It's another dimension perhaps connected to how rarely the average pro actually wins a race - maybe 3rd doesn't seem so bad.
- Obscurity ranking1 year 38 weeks agoIt is working now, so for me
It is working now, so for me and all my research and finishing with 91 points =70th with 60 others, 4 out of 5 top star riders, 1 very popular DS (& only one who scored points), 2 in 13-25th place and 2 on page two for 6 obscurity points
- 3 x Game Teams1 year 38 weeks agostewieatb wrote:Gkam - do youstewieatb wrote:
Gkam - do you refer to the PURIST league as the PURSUITS league just to grate your fingernails down the chalkboard of my soul?
My bad, well actually my tablets bad, but i'll say sorry for it, i feel pursuits is apt though, as your all playing catch up
- Lawyer says motorists claiming cyclists "came from nowhere" is an unacceptable excuse1 year 38 weeks agoalong with "I did not see you
along with "I did not see you as you were wearing black"...
- Which watch for cycling?1 year 38 weeks agog-shock all the way
g-shock all the way
- Volta Ciclista a Catalunya1 year 38 weeks agoTERatcliffe26 wrote:See iTERatcliffe26 wrote:
See i think uran will be the man for this race
Feel free to pop a team in, you have till monday morning
I was thinking that as well. Only one mountaintop finish though. Quite a few descents at the end of a race. Pity Nibali isn't racing.
- Volta Ciclista a Catalunya1 year 38 weeks agoFor those choosing Wiggins
For those choosing Wiggins for this, this is what he said in the Guardian
so at Catalonia mentally I will try to take my foot off the gas, probably playing a team role, riding on the front of the bunch, working for whoever needs it among the team.
Might put a team up later. It'll be fun to do a purist thing.
PS How do I find out the points for the riders. I can't remember all of them off by heart.
- component dropped off, what's it called?1 year 38 weeks agothat will be a vertical
that will be a vertical dropout... sorry, could not resist
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoSurprised Valverde didn't try
Surprised Valverde didn't try this race as he can beat Gerrans in a sprint.
- Tech Roundup: Carrera Virago video, Ritchey, Vulpine, Creux, Ravito, pocpac, Your Sports Fuel, Craft plus more…1 year 38 weeks agoThose bolts are a great
Those bolts are a great deterrent to bike thieves I reckon. The latest police haul found more value in parts stripped from bikes than bikes or frames. This is where they make their money so making their life difficult is a great deterrent.
Also like the simple idea of those pocpacs. I hate the square edges sticking in me and the hardish material is part of that so if these are a big more plush then great.
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoIt was a strage race overall.
It was a strage race overall. Maybe it was due to the crashes last year, and maybe due to the front group driving hard to prevent Sky getting back on, but nothing happened until half way up the Poggio. There was the obligatory pointless early breakaway that goes off at the start and runs out of steam as they reach the coast, but that was it apart from Jonny Hooligan having his moment.
For Gerrans, great for him, but it only works once. As for Fab, maybe he was so confident he thought he could ride on the front and still win, maybe he was happy knowing he'd get a top 3 place and all the ranking points with his big targets coming up in a couple of weeks, but pulling the others to the line seemed odd to me.
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoWig_Billy wrote:If the onlyWig_Billy wrote:
If the only person who deserves to win is the strongest rider, then we might as well just have a 300km time trail.
This. Pro cycling is so interesting because of the multiple layers - a cannier rider has as much chance as a stronger rider. On the day, only one rider is the strongest, and it is often clear to see. The fact that that rider might not win, and that they have to have another dimension to do so (tactical ability), makes for far more entertainment than a simple strongest man competition (and this coming from someone who also enjoys watching TTs)...
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agoGreat ride by Gerrans, I
Great ride by Gerrans, I thought the way he rode at the end was what cycle racing was all about. He used strength to get on to Nibali's wheel at the break and then a combination of timing and tactics to get the win at the end.
- 3 x Game Teams1 year 38 weeks agoBlinking fiddly phone. Nobody
Blinking fiddly phone. Nobody and emicon at end of sentance.
- 3 x Game Teams1 year 38 weeks agoThere could be the option to
There could be the option to choose all 3 teams or 2 or 1 then nobo dy is FORCED to do anything.
- Simon Gerrans wins Milan-San Remo for back-to-back Aussie wins1 year 38 weeks agomikroos wrote:I do understandmikroos wrote:
I do understand your arguments but still I believe that it's the strongest rider that should win, not the most efficient parasite. Races like this one show that winning races might make you a winner but not always a champion.
A race is a race. If the only person who deserves to win is the strongest rider, then we might as well just have a 300km time trail.
- Milan - San Remo1 year 38 weeks agoscores are up? can't see
scores are up? can't see mine.....