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Do they offer any protection when on a bean fueled camping trip?
Hmm - i'd imagine it's because medical people don't like leaving foreign bodies in their patients (for any longer than is necessary). It's an avascular area, so if it becomes colonized and infected with bacteria, it'd be very difficult to treat.
So,standard practice in many areas is to remove plates and scres,once you're happy that the fracture is healed well.
(Disclaimer - I'm a medical student, not an orthopaedic surgeon).
Watching it on a big screen at the Koppenberg, Thomas looked in great form, trying hard to bridge the gap in the last few km. If people around him had of helped him rather than letting him do all the work maybe he would have bettered that tenth. He was very impressive.
Having just ridden "The Tour of Flanders for cycle tourists and mountain bikers" which allows much of the same route as the pros the following day to be ridden with partial road closures and traffic controls to allow cycle priority I have to say that I like the fact that someone is proposing something similar here. It was a fantastic event and there were something like 20,000 riders across 7 routes. I know we like to knock everything in the UK (and my friends told me I shouldn't expect the same sort of service / food stops etc on UK sportive rides, this being my first ever) but Saturday last was one of the best days I have ever spent on a bike and if it could be done here that would be great. Now I wonder if they could brew some Belgian style beers for the finish line........
My company takes a photocopy of my licence every 6 months, if they do the same which they should they would have known about putz's previous offences. Its drivers like him that give the rest of use proffesional drivers a bad name.
Although I agree with most of the Five point safety plan these are the problems I can forsee:
1 Cyclist-awareness training for drivers
All city lorry drivers should be have ongoing cycle-awareness training, including on-bike experience.
**Who would pay for this? and what constitutesa city lorry driver (I drive in to london on the odd occasion but dont see myself as a city driver)**
2 Drivers must take more responsibility
Authorities must recognise driver responsibility for doing everything practical to reduce risks. Blaming a ‘blind spot’ should be an admission of guilt.
**Lorry design shouldnt be the fault of a driver, more training should be given to cyclists to make them aware of the blind spots of a lorry**
3 Safer design for London lorries
Lorries designed for off-road use should be taken off city streets. The best mirrors, cameras and sensors should be fitted as standard.
**This is a stupid comment, Off road vehicles wouldnt be registered so therefore wouldnt be able to go on the roads, unless they are talking about shunter vehicles used at most ports and distribution centers, they are usually restricted to 15-20mph so surely they would be more safer in town.**
4 Higher standards from lorry operators
Quality-assurance schemes such as London’s Freight Operator Recognition Scheme (FORS) should be mandatory, and the police encouraged to crack down on rogue operators.
**This I agree with whole heartedly, the police and VOSA should be cracking down on rogue companies**
5 More responsible procurement
Companies must only buy haulage services from reputable firms, with government taking a lead in encouraging best practice.
**Again this i agree with, there are more and more companies subbing the work out to foreign companies whos drivers in some cases only need to be able to driver a tractor to drive an HGV**
Plus: Better education for cyclists
Cyclists must be given the most accurate and up-to-date information on riding safely around lorries.
**THIS WOULD SAVE THE MOST LIVES! If more cyclists understood that coming up the left side of a truck thats turning left is a dumb move the less fatalities there would be, also using cycle lanes properly would help, the ammount of times I have seen a cyclist on the main carrigeway instead of in the cycle lane is unbelievable.**
So you cycle in a manner that causes other road users to have to slow down, stop or change direction, I am pretty sure that in a car that would be driving without due care and attention. I drive HGV's for a living and have driven in London on many occasion and would like to add I have never hit a cyclist or anything else for that matter, which when you have a suicidal cyclist coming up your blind side and sitting underneath your passenger window even though you have been sat there with your left turn signal on, its no wonder cyclists get hurt. The VED and insurance is all paid up on my truck so I have a right to be there (except when road restrictions prohibit it). Just remember most of your worldly posessions have been on the back of a lorry at some point. So when your next cycling 4 foot from the kerb just think how you are antagonising the driver behind you and they are more likely to drive close to you in retaliation.
Problem you have there is that most companies wont pay for someone to offload a lorry overnight, and I doubt anyone living next to a building site would want a delivery to appear when they are trying to sleep.
Trucks are designed the way they are due to the engine being low down and forward in the chassis, if you were to have a slung cab (such as the rubbish lorries) you would loose load space as the trailer would need to be shorter as there are limits to the length of a trailer, and as for having loadspace above the cab you have weight distribution issues as the truck would be more prone to toppling over,
As you might have guessed I am a truck driver, but also an avid cyclist (justifying my presence here), I have driven in London on several occasions and you can put money on at least one cyclist with a death wish not paying attention to my left turn signal and trying to come up my blind side as I am trying to turn left, but that is also extended to motorcyclists, car and van drivers. But one observation I have made, if you watch all these videos that are posted of cyclists commuting through london and so on, commenting on poor driving when they are cycling out side of the cycle lane.
All motorvehicles have a right to use the public highways of the UK provided all their documents are in order (obviously abiding by individual road restrictions) so to ban all lorries from cities would cause major problems for everyone, just look around you, pretty much everything in your area has been on the back of a lorry at some point INCLUDING your cycles, if lorries were restricted to the outskirts of london most companies that require deliveries by road would move out of the city yes leaving every cyclist free of danger from trucks but you wouldnt be able to buy half of the goods you currently buy in the city. All of the superstores would stay on the outskirts as they have such a high turnover of trucks delivering to their stores it wouldn't be cost effective to deliver everything by van or even 7.5t trucks.
Everyone just needs to pay more attention including truck drivers.
At the risk of being accused of being a terrible, mean, negative cynic (and we all know the world is ruled by pessimists, as every bubble from tulip-mania to the Irish economy, and the election of vapid, grinning, war-happy idiots like Tony Blair and David Cameron, all prove), isn't this what nasal hair is for?
nope, click on 'everyone' and pick Dessel instead
I thought April Fools was over and done with for this year??
as only brad wiggins is the only gc choice do you have to pick him to ensure your team get points for P-ROUB??
yep working thanks
Flick the elbow
Youthful former Paris-Roubaix winner takes third.
I find it sad that the DfT and other bodies only approach to reducing fatality figures is to straighten roads; place anti-skid surfaces on corners and junctions; and rumble lines on the approach to junctions and roundabouts; dual-carriageways that suddenly run out!!
Last week I have had a near misses with a tuition vehicle minus the learner! If this is the standard of driving demonstrated by the instructor I hate to see what he is teaching the learner driver!
The sooner tuition is sorted out the better - motorway driving and cycle awareness are two that spring to mind!
you want a kickshift and some newbie mates. you can take all day then
disasterous. trying to keep up with a multi ironman finisher and a national standard time trialist was bloody awful. I need more will power (and fitness)
"The report calls for a 10-year road safety programme, estimated to cost less than 10 per cent of existing road budgets, to deal with shortcomings in safety such as missing fencing and poor road layouts at junctions."
Surely not the same fencing which is used by HGV drivers to shred cyclists? Also, wouldn't roads which are percieved as "safer" be subject to risk compensation behaviour in the form of behaviour like speeding, braking late and taking corners at speed?
now that I would go for.
A mass start and a full loop of the M25 sounds ace!!
They should go through the City. On a Sunday it is practically empty.
How about they close the M25 and the 30,000 people can ride around there. It's a lot of people to plan for, so they'll have a lot of room on the motorway, and given the average speed on the M25 is about 15mph anyway, it would be a great demonstration of how bikes are again faster than cars in a busy traffic situation. Of course there would be the obligatory contra-flow section, and even when closed there'll be a tosser in a BMW carving people up, but hey, it's the UK!
On the more serious side, it's good for Boris to dream big, no matter what his motivation, and if this helps to get more people out on their bikes, (and proving to naysayers that it's safe when they don't get mown down the instant their front wheel touches the asphalt)well, good on you Boris!
Well, at least its a proactive move. I like the concept of it, and I would imagine there'd be a great atmosphere. I wouldn't get too sniffy about the route, as long as it went through plenty of interesting bits too.
It'd be quite a spectacle, and it's not all about scenery.
Go for it Boris I say!
Don't forget there will be 11 football matches played at the Millennium Stadium in Wales (or that the home athletes at London 2012 will be representing GB, not England)
And to those of us from North of the Border, the football match that sticks in the memory is a certain one played at Wembley in 1967, not 1966
I've just thought. It's a good job that I aren't a pro. With my belly the UCI would probably force me to have liposuction to reduce my aero advantage. And I bet my belly makes me a whole lot more aero than any Camelbak made so far! I wonder if I could sell my belly to one of the schlecks? Must be worth £250M surely?
There are some interesting bits of road in London and that includes some not so flat bits too.