• Injured while cycling? Still got the scars? London publisher wants you for photo book1 year 7 weeks agofarrell

    farrell wrote:
    FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

    I more-or-less agree with oozaveared. At the risk of repeating myself - what needs to be emphasised is not that 'cycling is dangerous' (it isn't) but that 'driving is dangerous'. That motoring is dangerous in the sense of posing a danger to _other people_ seems, weirdly, to mean people don't think of it as such.
    In my opinion doing it this way is getting the emphasis wrong and risks being misinterpreted.

    And how do you plan on explaining to people that motoring is dangerous given that driving is a normal, everyday method of transport and millions of people drive everywhere every single day without being injured or hurt.

    *nb - You must not refer to any injury caused by a motorist suffered by a pedestrian or cyclist at any point in your working out.

    You provide a _perfect_ example of the confusion over the meaning of the word 'dangerous'.

    The whole point would be the injuries suffered by pedestrians and cyclists at the hands of motorists! I'm saying that this book (because of its title and description and exclusion of injured pedestrians) concentrates on the mode of transport of the victims rather than that of those who cause the injuries.

    I really don't know that such a book would achieve much in any case, but it would certainly be an improvement if it were of 'injuries caused by cars' than 'injuries suffered by cyclists'.

    (Its an issue of emphasis/description - some of the content would no doubt overlap).

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoThe standout item for me is

    The standout item for me is still the Brevet Jersey. OK, so its £195 which is a lot of money. But that includes the gilet, which retails for £110 separately. £85 for the jersey makes it the cheapest in the range, and given it comes with a full length zip give it a thumbs up in my book.

    I have two Rapha country jerseys that are a few years old and still going strong. Its a shame they seem to have stopped those as they were always at the cheaper end of the range and came with a full length zip. I like the retro ones above, and the team jerseys, but the zip... Did I tell you I like a full length zip? Big Grin

  • Moore Large ‘Geared 2014’ show: Lake, Forme, Jagwire, Dare2B, Proviz, Joe’s and more1 year 7 weeks agoIts cable! no cable should

    Its cable! no cable should cost £60 unless it is hand weaved by Tibetan elf monks.

    I've been riding 30+ years on 'standard cables' and recently ebay sourced. Never had a cable fail, my brakes work fine and my shifting is smooth. I replace every year and that is over cautious.....how durable does it need to be?

    Clearly there is a market, Thinking

  • Proper Purist Classics Comp1 year 7 weeks agoBoonen – 18.4 Van Summeren –

    Boonen – 18.4
    Van Summeren – 9.7
    Nuyens – 3.0
    Paolini – 27.1
    Cancellara – 25.2
    Stannard – 15.5
    Gasparotto – 17.2
    Heneo – 24.4
    Wynants – 8.2

    Total = 148.7
    Just 2 "big names"

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoRapha, lol.

    Rapha, lol.

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoI like Rapha but noticed

    I like Rapha but noticed their 'Classic Bib Shorts' had increased to £150. I'd have to think again before purchasing or seeing the product in my hands to determine quality and fit.

  • Local cyclists and activists hit out at design of new junction after Southampton hit-and-run1 year 7 weeks agoSorry, but that junction is

    Sorry, but that junction is totally f*cked up. I just watched the video and yelled at chicken 1 to stop as he turned to cycle the wrong way into oncoming traffic. A couple of seconds later I realised that this was the behavior intended by the junction designers.

    It really beggars belief. How can anyone be so stupid as to think this is a good design?

  • Video: Edinburgh Council issues tram cycle safety film, but cyclists' fears remain1 year 7 weeks ago@bauchlebastart - please

    @bauchlebastart - please nominate that to Pete Owen's cycle facility of the month... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/pete.meg/wcc/facility-of-the-month/index.htm

  • Video: Cereal offender filmed eating breakfast while driving Maserati1 year 7 weeks agoMaserati Muesli....talk to me

    Maserati Muesli....talk to me

  • Video: Cereal offender filmed eating breakfast while driving Maserati1 year 7 weeks agoBeavis: Whoa dude, he's like

    Beavis: Whoa dude, he's like eating cereal
    Butthead: Cool
    Beavis: I wanna eat cereal in a Ferrari
    Butthead: I wanna eat cereal on my bike...

    So, fellow cyclists this guy is obviously way cool. Let's just try to find out what cereal he's eating Smile

    I wonder what he's having for dinner!

    I also wonder if he has the milk, bowl, spoon and cereal in his car or does he take the bowl out of the house ready to go, which I imagine is quite difficult when you have to get in and put your seat belt on.

  • Injured while cycling? Still got the scars? London publisher wants you for photo book1 year 7 weeks agoApart from the problems

    Apart from the problems outlined above there is one other- "shocking" photos do NOT work as a means of bringing about behavioural or attitudinal change- in fact they can be counterproductive. I come across this all the time in my work- I manage a community drugs service. Time and time again when we are engaged in prevention and education work we are told by well-meaning individuals we should shock people and tell them scare stories but all the evidence is that this does not work. In fact it can often lead to a "boomerang effect" where the uptake in risk taking behaviours increases rather than decreases. It is the same with most public safety messages and why the constant calls for simply "educating" drivers are not enough- we have to incorporate the human element that uses "it will never happen to me" or "no one is telling me what to do" as a justification for ignoring safety messages. So yeah shocking pics-whether they are of a body with a needle in its arm or of injuries incurred after a SMIDSY- might make good media fodder but they have close to zero impact on changing attitudes or behaviour.

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoI don't hate it, its lovely

    I don't hate it, its lovely stuff but I would rather feed my family, put some money in the bank, keep the dog and wear a £30 nalini jersey which does the job very well.

  • Video: Cereal offender filmed eating breakfast while driving Maserati1 year 7 weeks agoCould have been worse, might

    Could have been worse, might have been deep frying a Mars bar...

  • Local cyclists and activists hit out at design of new junction after Southampton hit-and-run1 year 7 weeks agoAlternate simple proposal

    Alternate simple proposal that would save millions and improve traffic flow:

    Cars are supposed to slow to circa 15mph at junctions, cyclists follow exactly the same patterns as cars, all vehicles to leave the recommended stopping distance or greater between each other. Signalling mandatory. Failure to observe any of the above whatever vehicle you're on results in an on the spot fine or confiscation of vehicle.

    Yeah right... instead we're going to get experimental "dutch" interweaving of two separate traffic systems resulting in either of two outcomes: 1) slower bicycle commute times; 2) death and confusion.

    All the dutch segregationist lobbyists are stampeding cycling into what will be a very unpleasant place.

  • Local cyclists and activists hit out at design of new junction after Southampton hit-and-run1 year 7 weeks agoSuggest local campaigners

    Suggest local campaigners mount boxes at the junction filled with leaflets marked with the following "tickbox" statement:

    [_] I have watched and understood the instructional video regarding this junction and agree to absolve Southampton City Council, Sustrans and the Highways Agency of all blame should I be injured or killed whilst using it.
    Signed __________
    Print name __________

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoLet the haters hate. 3, 2,

    Let the haters hate. 3, 2, 1...

  • Injured while cycling? Still got the scars? London publisher wants you for photo book1 year 7 weeks agoFluffyKittenofTindalos

    FluffyKittenofTindalos wrote:

    I more-or-less agree with oozaveared. At the risk of repeating myself - what needs to be emphasised is not that 'cycling is dangerous' (it isn't) but that 'driving is dangerous'. That motoring is dangerous in the sense of posing a danger to _other people_ seems, weirdly, to mean people don't think of it as such.
    In my opinion doing it this way is getting the emphasis wrong and risks being misinterpreted.

    And how do you plan on explaining to people that motoring is dangerous given that driving is a normal, everyday method of transport and millions of people drive everywhere every single day without being injured or hurt.

    *nb - You must not refer to any injury caused by a motorist suffered by a pedestrian or cyclist at any point in your working out.

  • Rapha launch new Training & Racing range1 year 7 weeks agoYep I love they're pink

    Yep I love they're pink clothing (apply jokes now Laughing
    I have the shorts and they fit me better and comfier than my Assos Millie and S7 ones

    I imagine that new proteam SS top will be a ludicrous price though. My high flying wife my treat me again

    I have just bought the grey and pink SS top from these guys. Rapha snyde
    http://ardenbike.com/
    Arrived a few days ago. Very well made and way cheaper if you not arsed about labels.

  • Local cyclists and activists hit out at design of new junction after Southampton hit-and-run1 year 7 weeks agoBut this is cycle proof.

    But this is cycle proof. There won't be nearly any cycles using it - therefore it is cycle proof...or do i (and Southampton council) have the wrong end of the stick here?

  • Proper Purist Classics Comp1 year 7 weeks agoMonica, can you take a look

    Monica, can you take a look at your team, you have 10 riders.

    Up to 17 teams now, the more entries the better Smile

    Perhaps not a big surprise but the first four names on most peoples teams are Peter Sagan, Fabian Cancellara, Greg Van Avermaet and Tom Boonen.

  • SHYSPY GPS Tracker seeks Kickstarter funding1 year 7 weeks agoCritchio wrote:Most bike

    Critchio wrote:
    Most bike thieves are unemployed scum who nick your bike to buy their next hit from the local drug dealer. While there are 'pro' bike thieves that target high value road bikes, most bikes are nicked by low intellect scum I described above. These thieves aren't going to consider that there's a tracker in the seat post. Not until such devices become commonplace.

    A good idea if they are cheap enough. I had an £800 mtb nicked two years ago and recovered by police following a tip-off. The thief sold my bike for £30 then shot that £30 in his arm. The front light I had left on it was worth more than that!

    I think you may mean "drug addict" rather than simply "unemployed scum" for the casual thief

    Organised thieving tends to need workshop space and a bit a of know how so most rings involve people who are in employment (often in the cycling trade) and making money on the side by illegal means

    If I wanted to read sweeping statements like "unemployed scum" I would read the Daily Mail rather than wiping my arse with it.

  • FS: 2006 Specialized Allez Comp Elite, 51cm1 year 7 weeks agoI am v interested in that -

    I am v interested in that - would you package up & send - we are in N Scotland!

    Cheers

    Steve

  • Injured while cycling? Still got the scars? London publisher wants you for photo book1 year 7 weeks agooozaveared wrote:I don't want

    oozaveared wrote:
    I don't want anyone "shocked" about cycling. There is nothing shocking about it. There is no shocking great problem with cycling injuries that needs fixing. It's a normal everyday means of transport. It's safe, efficient and pleasurable. We (cyclists) are not whining victims of some motorists and the powers that be. When I am cycling I am just as legitimate a road user as when I drive one of my cars. I am not in significantly more danger.

    I have been riding on the road (properly) since around 1973 when I joined a cycling club. I have raced on the roads, track, cyclocross and for a few years now have a mountanbike as well. I commute to work on a bike most days 15 miles each way. If you ride a bike there is a chance that occasionally you will fall off. It's a small risk. If you think that risk is high and the results shocking then maybe cycling isn't for you. But please don't try to shock people into discouraging cycling or into not taking it up because they think it's dangerous. It's not.

    You know thew square root of fuck all about me but you've decided that 'maybe cycling isn't for me'? Lovely bit of condescension there.

    I assume you will be lobbying Boris Johnson to say "Hey, that £300 million you're promising to sort out those 33 roundabouts to make them safer for cyclists? Yeah, don't bother with that pal, I'm already a 'legitimate road user' not a 'whining victim', there is no 'great shocking problem' with people being injured or hit because I've been riding since back in black and white and I'm alright Jack".

    Because if everything is as hunky dory as you are making out in your Comical Ali little world then there is zero need for cycling infrastructure is there? Nobody is getting hurt, or getting killed, or injured so why waste this money? Why spend any money or even any energy at all on improving cycling facilities?

  • Proper Purist Classics Comp1 year 7 weeks agoTwybaydos wrote:I think

    Twybaydos wrote:
    I think that's only 8 Orli

    Oops, left out my other 3.0 rider, Kreder Smile

    Tom Boonen 18.4
    Fabian Cancellara 25.2
    Peter Sagan 40.0
    Greg Van Avermaet 22.8
    Sylvain Chavanel 24.4
    Johan Van Summeren 9.7
    Tom Van Asbroeck 3.0
    Dylan Van Baarle 3.0
    Raymond Kreder 3.0

    149.5

    Thanks, Twy...

  • Video: Reports of "chaos" caused by M25 cyclist "an exaggeration"1 year 7 weeks agoa9350058 wrote:Its no wonder

    a9350058 wrote:
    Its no wonder car drivers and the media have a go at us. £50 fine is woefully inadequatefor someone whose actions in crossing the slip carriageways could have caused untold chaos in addition to endangering his own life. He ought to be banned from cycling until he has taken a safety awareness course.

    He is out of order of course. But £50 is similar in nature to an FPN for driving whilst using a mobile phone. And the likeliest victim of any incident is going to be him.

    Pull a u turn in a car then drive the wrong way on a motorway because your sat nav says turn round (similar sort of thing) £300 fine. And victimhood is unlikely to be limited to the offender.