• More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoActually, the comments seem

    Actually, the comments seem Faily Dail, while there's some useful info in the article for once.

    What's discussed is actually quite complex legally.

    Morally though, what should happen is the more vulnerable the injured party is, the more stringently the judging should be once guilt is proven.

    However, proving guilt in complex, low speed collisions like in city driving is harder.

    Driving bans all round though, for very long periods, would have a great inhibitory effect on everyday careless driving.

  • Rider says police too "busy" to attend crash that broke leg1 year 5 weeks agoBetter response than the one

    Better response than the one I got a number of years ago. Still not a good one. Often wonder how quickly the police would attend if a water bottle went through a window?

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoWolfshade wrote:But the AA

    Wolfshade wrote:
    But the AA seems to see nothing wrong with the more lenient treatment of drivers who kill cyclists.

    The AA obviously don't see what the issue is of prvelidge and discrimination. I'm sure with that attitude Lorna Lee would not have a problem with being paid less than her male counter parts, after all who needs equal treatment.

    Ridiculous.

    Do they? I can't find anywhere where they say that. The closest they say is "judges have the appropriate powers".

    This is Daily Mail quality journalism with a cycling bent. It has the approximate value of cracked-helmet porn: unless you already totally agree, and you're just looking for vindication, it tells you nothing useful at all.

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoBut the AA seems to see

    But the AA seems to see nothing wrong with the more lenient treatment of drivers who kill cyclists.

    The AA obviously don't see what the issue is of prvelidge and discrimination. I'm sure with that attitude Lorna Lee would not have a problem with being paid less than her male counter parts, after all who needs equal treatment.

    Ridiculous.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoYeah - in the end it was

    Yeah - in the end it was Porte that cost me my full house - didn't see that coming!

    Not a fan of the way Majka rode that climb - he didn't (couldn't?) help Konig at all when they were trying to get away, just sat in his wheel all the way up, and then felt justified in outsprinting him for second! Cheeky bugger...

    EDIT - Porte came 15th in the intermediate sprint! 1 point, and a full-house for me (assuming Voeckler stayed in the top 5 on the KOM...) Ah - looks like Tommy V has dropped to sixth in the KOM so no full-house after all...

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoSo if you kill a driver or a

    So if you kill a driver or a passenger you are more likely to go to gaol than if you kill a cyclist.....

  • Rider says police too "busy" to attend crash that broke leg1 year 5 weeks agoI'm confused, I thought that

    I'm confused, I thought that the default for police in an incident where a road user was injured would be to attend the scene at least. I also thought breathalising those involved was the standard procedure (for which they'd obviously have to be present), though I admit that this is just an impression gleaned from media consumption, not based on anything.

    Additionally, I don't think I would call a broken leg a "minor" injury.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoYeh Chris had Peraud and

    Yeh Chris had Peraud and Konig to my Bardet, so he will score about 20 points more than me, congrats to him, as it could be a stage win, unless someone had my team with Konig over Porte

  • Rider says police too "busy" to attend crash that broke leg1 year 5 weeks ago'“Due to the minor nature of

    '“Due to the minor nature of his injuries, and other operational priorities, officers did not immediately attend the scene,” she said.'

    Contador has set some expectations of how cyclists can handle a broken leg hasn't he.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoCould have gone worse I

    Could have gone worse I guess, will get Porte and Tommy V out tomorrow to get in J-Rod in

    ended up with 1,4,5,6,7 and 1,2,3,4,5 on GC

  • Rider says police too "busy" to attend crash that broke leg1 year 5 weeks agoI'm guessing no breathaliser

    I'm guessing no breathaliser sample was taken from the driver then.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agochrisdstripes wrote:Couldn't

    chrisdstripes wrote:
    Couldn't decide whether it would be a break day today, decided it wouldn't be. So GC today and will bring in Purito and a wildcard tomorrow most likely.

    Wasted a transfer on Trentin yesterday, either I was exceptionally lucky last year or I've been very unlucky this year, because I'm sure I didn't have anywhere near this many crashes/injuries/DQs etc in 2013!

    Ten pens for this lot...

    Nibali
    Porte
    Tejay
    Valverde
    Pinot
    Peraud
    Konig
    Voeckler
    Visconti

    A good day for you!

  • A hand me down...1 year 5 weeks agowatlina wrote:Mr W, Pink and

    watlina wrote:
    Mr W,

    Pink and Celeste not so bad

    Smile Cheers Andrew

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoWow. I'd love to see some

    Wow. I'd love to see some more detail on the figures and some exploration of causal factors behind them. It does seem shockingly low, though to be fair the 60% figure for total road deaths seems too low as well.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoPorte has lost 5 minutes, so

    Porte has lost 5 minutes, so he's out of GC contention now. Looked like he just completely cracked half way up the climb.

  • Half of Tour de France winners say Lance Armstrong should get his seven titles back1 year 5 weeks agoColin Peyresourde wrote:I

    Colin Peyresourde wrote:
    I think part of the problem about Armstrong is that the scientific aspect of his wins seems so large. Evidence suggests that Armstrong was a regular pro-peloton doper before his cancer (Betsy Andreu's bedside comments withstanding) and at that point he was just an ordinary rider in the scheme of things. Basically by pushing the envelope of drug taking he won seven titles.

    But if he was just a mediocre rider previously, why did his team choose him to be the 'the one'? If your objective is to win as much as possible, surely enhancing an already good rider would be more likely to produce the results (while also drawing less suspicion). Was Pantani a brilliant rider who didn't know the right drugs? If so, why wasn't he getting the advice that Armstrong got instead.
    The truth is, nobody knows what constituted a level playing field or to what level people were being chemically assisted in those days.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoJ-Rod popped. Porte popped.

    J-Rod popped. Porte popped.

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoA Valverde win would suit me

    A Valverde win would suit me both financially and fantasy-wise.

    Not many talking about TJVG - he could contend at the finish line too.

  • Video: Russian cyclist walks away after being run over by skip lorry1 year 5 weeks agoMiraculous. The bike took the

    Miraculous. The bike took the weight of the lorry and then gets spat out. Horrible piece of driving.

  • MPs call for fivefold increase in Government spending on cycling1 year 5 weeks agoGizmo_ wrote:oozaveared

    Gizmo_ wrote:
    oozaveared wrote:
    SteppenHerring wrote:
    What would be nice is if they could get someone to design cycle lanes/paths who doesn't actively seek to kill cyclists.

    The trouble is that they don't consider the range of cyclists that might use it. At 10mph they're probably OK. At 20mph they're definitely not. I suspect that a lot of cyclists are treating a path like a road. Though I agree that some of them are just completely flawed at any speed.

    I treat a bike path on my bike pretty much as I would treat and unmade road in my car. With some circumspection.


    I do agree that cycle paths are generally aimed at 10mph cyclists not 20mph ones. Which is where the 'agressive driving' risk comes in... every day I have some comedian imply that I shouldn't be on the road, and it's simply not good enough.

    Well, I was at least partly thinking of on-road cycle lanes. For instance, with an HGV, the blind spots are to the left of the vehicle and directly in front of the cab. Where do the cycle lanes and ASL encourage riders to be? Also cycle lanes that disappear when there's a central refuge, lanes that divert onto the pavement and then spit you out back into the road ...

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoNot sure of J-Rod, kind of

    Not sure of J-Rod, kind of don't want him to be now for financial reasons...sod the FL

  • Half of Tour de France winners say Lance Armstrong should get his seven titles back1 year 5 weeks agoColin Peyresourde wrote:I

    Colin Peyresourde wrote:
    I think part of the problem about Armstrong is that the scientific aspect of his wins seems so large. Evidence suggests that Armstrong was a regular pro-peloton doper before his cancer (Betsy Andreu's bedside comments withstanding) and at that point he was just an ordinary rider in the scheme of things. Basically by pushing the envelope of drug taking he won seven titles. It's not just that he doped, but the extent to how he doped - he would otherwise have been a nobody, an also-ran. So you cannot tell me that he was just like all the others. What he did probably risked his and other peoples lives.

    We could also go on about self-serving lies, manipulation and bullying but that's just the nasty side of LA.....

    I've been watching the Armstrong Lie - not finished yet - but one of the things that I'm not quite buying is his statement that they began doping as a group because they were getting comprehensively kicked by other teams, week in week out, while he was wearing the rainbow jersey. So, you won the Worlds clean, but get routinely battered every week? What, the rest of the peloton thoughts the Worlds wasn't worth doping for?

    At the time, I was kind of on the fence with regards Lance, but it was nothing to do with denials or "never failed a test" etc. In those 7 tour wins, he never crashed, never had a mechanical (other than punctures or whatever), everything was so organised, these guys were into marginal gains before it was trendy. Contrast that with how amateur many teams are reputed to be, and the potential gap seemed vast. Then incidents like Joseba Beloki crashing and Lance just sucking it up and coming out the other side after a spell of mountain biking just seemed to illustrate that actually, this guy really can ride a bike. Ho hum, hindsight and all that.

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoYet more depressing evidence

    Yet more depressing evidence that the judiciary has some kind of secret belief that cyclists are partly to blame for getting themselves killed by being on the road in the first place. Sigh*

  • More than half of drivers who kill cyclists escape jail1 year 5 weeks agoAA

    AA Applause

  • TdF stage 131 year 5 weeks agoJoelsim wrote:TERatcliffe26

    Joelsim wrote:
    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    Joelsim wrote:
    Tommy V off the back

    Thats not good! but nevermind

    Good for me.

    Also got a fiver EW on De Marchi for the mountains jersey at 80/1.

    I hope the De Marchi one works out, I quite like him. He is in my RCUK team, but I don't know whether what he has done today scores him anything in that.

    Just 2 points for J-rod on that climb. You reckon he will be at the finish?

    I just Fancy Valverde, Pinot, Bardet as the top 3