- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoJonD wrote:"For a start, theJonD wrote:
"For a start, the French statistics relate to the area covered by the Prefecture of Police of Paris, which covers 762 square kilometres; Greater London, for comparison, covers 1,572 square kilometres."
Sorry Simon, that's way too simplistic a comparison - I can't comment on Paris, but the outlying suburbs of Greater London don't magically disappear into nothingness, just more of the same. "Greater London" is purely an arbitrary identification of area.
Far more relevant to the argument is how the fatalities in London are distributed - it's already known that one black spot is Bow roundabout, and there's another area somewhere in C London (I forget where) where fatalities are predominantly women cyclists.
"Greater London" isn't at all arbitrary; it's a precisely defined area, made up of the 32 London boroughs. If you live within it, Boris Johnson is your mayor, you will have a London Assembly member representing you, if you live outside it, you don't. It's policed by the Met, not Kent or Essex constabularies, or whatever. And it's entirely relevant here because TfL's road casualty stats cover Greater London - no more, no less.
It may be a "simplistic" comparison as you say, but it's a valid one, as is pointing out that the zero deaths Paris stat is an anomaly, confirmed by police in Paris - but it's one of those stats that is now becoming set in stone, Boardman's letter mistakenly gives it as "last year" ie 2012, BBC reported that as fact.
You make a good point about Bow, which we've covered in depth, likewise the area with a high incidence of female cyclists being killed (roughly speaking, an area centred on Bloomsbury).
- Blink/Steady £115 rear light now available in the UK1 year 9 weeks agoThe price of this thing would
The price of this thing would make me feel I was riding a light with a bike attached to it!
- Commons committee to consider cycling safety next month1 year 9 weeks agoI would have to agree they
I would have to agree they are going to have alot of comments coming there way!
For what's it worth, zero tolerance for bad driving.
Education for cyclists.
everything else are nice to haves.
Enforcement of working hours on ALL business drivers, that includes reps, private hire etc. GOOD cycle paths, proper design of new roads to give real consideration to cyclists. A change of mindset about redesigning junctions, cars are not king! Give the roads back to pedestrians and cyclists.
- Bike purchase - need info!1 year 9 weeks agoAll
Sorry to revive an old
Sorry to revive an old thread, but having been ill (unfortunately) I never managed to purchase my bike. Is anyone aware of any particular good deals on any of the models mentioned above? I'd be looking at a 56 or 58cm, I believe (being 6'2" and 34" inseam).
Any help appreciated (again!)
- Free Ant+ indoor trainer software1 year 9 weeks agoservicemycycle wrote:Am Iservicemycycle wrote:
Am I right in thinking this will communicate with my garmin speed and cadance sensor if I have a ANT+ USB stick?
- Labour to prioritise safe cycling infrastructure in 2015 manifesto1 year 9 weeks agoQuote:Labour to prioritiseQuote:
Labour to prioritise safe cycling infrastructure in 2015 manifesto
Labour to jump on every bandwagon going for 2015 manifesto.
Fixed that for you.
- Commons committee to consider cycling safety next month1 year 9 weeks agoDamn right I'll contact them.
Damn right I'll contact them. Suspect they'll be avalanched and much of it to do with the complete lack of deterrent and punishment for drivers who just aren't fit to hold a licence.
- Massive London police traffic enforcement operation next week1 year 9 weeks agoAyBee wrote:BikebikebikeAyBee wrote:Bikebikebike wrote:Goldfever4 wrote:Quote:
Mr Jones said half of all cyclists killed on London’s roads since January 2010 have been going down the inside of lorries. “They may well have the right to be there but the fact is it is a dangerous manoeuvre.”
Simple. 50% of cyclist deaths are completely avoidable by cyclists not being thick as mud.
The other 50% is down to all sorts of factors, and this doesn't necessarily carry across to injuries, but it's a good point well made.
Thick as mud, or just cycling along the cycle lanes and filter lanes to the ASL, where they are being directed to?
One mistake should not mean a bloody and brutal death. I hope you never make a mistake on the road, and pay for it with your life.
You can fck right off.
If you're not in a position to determine whether you're safe riding (wherever that may be), you shouldn't be on the road, it's akin to a route leading you off a cliff - would you still drive it?
What does that even mean?
- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoMatt eaton wrote:When did weMatt eaton wrote:
When did we start making road rules on a local, city-by-city basis?
I believe 'parking on the pavement' is only banned in London and one other city (Bath?). Of course its never enforced, so its a bit pointless anyway.
- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoFair enough as long as they
Fair enough as long as they also ban car stereos.
If I'm spared the boom-boom-boom megabass from passing cars (that I hear in my own living room!) and if it, as a side-effect destroys Nick Ferrari's listening figures, (LBC is pretty much a station for taxi-drivers and white van men, no?) then it will be worth it!
But if the ban is exclusive to cyclists, then forget it!
- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoI guess it's just because he
I guess it's just because he is Mayor of London and doesn't have a remit for the rest of the country. I'm sure when he is made national cycling czar, he'll roll it out across our whole great nation....
- Labour to prioritise safe cycling infrastructure in 2015 manifesto1 year 9 weeks agooozaveared wrote: At leastoozaveared wrote:
At least Boris cycles his bike in London. Labour's previous Mayor said he planned compulsory helmets for cyclists and famously claimed he had never actually ridden a bike (or couldn't I can't remember which now).
(snip) whilst not upsetting motorists
Congestion charging came in under Livingstone.
Johnson cancelled it's extension, despite C London pollution exceeding limits.
The 'Boris Bikes' scheme could arguably be referred to as 'Ken bikes', since that's when the scheme was initiated:
Whilst Livingstone may have made some ill-advised statements, he's been outdone in spades by Johnson.
The problem with Johnson is partly that he cycles - the 'I know better' effect. Livingston may well have been more willing to listen to advice precisely because he doesn't cycle, and may well have had the courage to ban hgvs at peak times - Johnson won't.northstar wrote:
They had 13 years previously... next?
True..but cycling's undergone a huge increase in the last few years. Which particular party in which paticular decade would you like cite for ignoring cycling? Apart from a few individuals, they've all done it in the past, whoever takes up the baton, good luck to them.
But we've seen from the recent all-parliamentary committee that Cameron does no more than make noises, and the current government will do nothing.
- Daily Mail warns MAMILs to step away from the bike for their health's sake1 year 9 weeks agoIt's easy to chuckle a bit at
It's easy to chuckle a bit at mamils slowly plodding up hills top to toe in Rapha aboard their Dogmas and S-Works but actually it may be beneficial in various ways - isn't James Murdoch big into cycling? Its not a massive leap to imagine that the more cyclists (mamil or not) with influence in the media will help with putting a more positive spin on cycling.
I'm sure I overtook the dude that made 4 weddings and a funeral and all the other romcoms in this years L2B too. He was in full replica Sky kit with his name on the top tube. Maybe we can look forward to seeing cycling becoming normalised or even desirable in the next Curtis film. Just hopefully not Hugh Grant in lycra.
- Aldi Performance Cycle clothing sale this Thursday1 year 9 weeks agoYawn, nothing for women as
Yawn, nothing for women as usual. But of course we don't do proper exercise anyway, we prefer eating salad.
- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoAside from the debate about
Aside from the debate about the actual impact of wearing headphones whist riding what really disturbs me about this story is that the discussion is about banning cyclists from using headphone *in London*. When did we start making road rules on a local, city-by-city basis?
This touches on a theme which is a big issue for cyclists as road design, cycle infrastructure and attitude to things like pavement cycling seem to vary considerably in different areas. I'd like to see some more joined up thinking on these issues rather than making up new rules that only apply in limited geographical areas.
- Sustrans to transform 300 miles of walking and cycling routes into nature havens1 year 9 weeks agowoollee23 wrote:Mission creepwoollee23 wrote:
Mission creep - bio-diversity falls within the remit of the Environment Agency, so why aren't they taking the lead on this?
For the same reason that the Highways Agency and other non environmental organisations are involved with ecology - they have to protect the environment and wildlife, by law.
It doesn't mention the law, but here is the Highway Agencies page on nature.mrmo wrote:
Sorry i fail to see the point in Sustrans as they are currently. We do need an organisation committed to sustainable transport, but sustrans as is isn't it.
Unfortunately it's not necessarily as simple as you perhaps appear to think.
Whether Sustrans has moved to far away from the sustainable transport goals that it originally set up around, it's a very good question and one that should be debated, but to suggest that Sustrans doesn't have a point is essentially saying that nothing that it does is of any use, which is just wrong. It may not be doing the things that you think it should be, but it is doing the things it sets out to do when applying for funding, otherwise it wouldn't get more funding.
Is Sustrans the organisation to be at the forefront of the push for Sustainable transport? Not sure, and you may have a point regarding the dilution of it's aims/goals with all the things it now does and how this impacts on it's ability to fight the Sustainable transport cause.
However an example of why Sustrans has diversified is that there is much more to Sustainable transport argument than just the transport. Purely lobbying/campaigning on the transport issue ignoring everything else won't get very far as it will be drowned out by the powerful road transport lobby groups. But bring in other arguments for 'active travel' such as health, and the argument for sustainable transport gets much stronger by including points that the road lobby are unable to counter. Hence Sustrans being involved with Health related cycling projects so as to gain evidence and prove value.
- Massive London police traffic enforcement operation next week1 year 9 weeks agoHow's this going to work
How's this going to work safely?
If cars stop in the ASL then are the drivers going to be handed a ticket on the spot, without holding up the flow of traffic?
Equally, if the police stop cyclists in the narrow cycle lane then won't the obstruction cause cyclists to spread out over the road - at a congested junction?
- Sustrans calls for action after 11 cyclist deaths in UK this month1 year 9 weeks agoMatt eaton wrote:
How doesMatt eaton wrote:
How does one turn right (or even go straight on) on this sort of junction, particuaraly if you reach it when the lights are green? I'm open minded but this looks mental to me.
I know, i put them up as an idea, not perfect, but i doubt there is a "perfect" solution. I know from experience that some drivers will straight line corners, in effect squeezing any rider in the cycle lane, also helps to enforce the no driving in the cycle lane/filter lane.
I guess you would have to pick the side of the bollards depending on whether turning right/left, or going straight on. I can see it working if it covers areas of a path but not all the path. But then how does the raised kerb approach on CS2 work in london if you want to take a right side turning?? or are there no un-traffic lighted junctions?
- Boris Johnson says he'd back ban on cyclists wearing earphones1 year 9 weeks agoadamthekiwi wrote:@jimbonic:adamthekiwi wrote:
@jimbonic: I think you've misinterpreted what I said. Yes, an aural landscape is a useful addition to your sensory package, but it is easy to replace it with more visual checking, as all motorcyclists do all the time.
Of course, if music interferes with *your* ability to cycle such that it can cause a collision, *you* should seriously consider never wearing earphones while cycling. Everyone else should be able to make that choice for themselves.
I agree. Everyone should be able to make that choice. I have. Thanks for the concern.
As a cyclist or motorcyclist, or any other road user for that matter, you should be making visual checks behind. What I am saying is that, when you are aware of close traffic, overly frequent checks behind distract you from looking forward. That's the same for everyone. And everyone will be at a disadvantage if they're listening to something on their ear/headphones.
The cyclist / motorcyclist comparison is slightly skewed, in that on a motorcycle, you are likely to be travelling somewhat faster and, as such, your relative speed to other, heavier road users is far lower. You're unlikely to be overtaken by an HGV close enough to be able to count the dirt particles. Also, as you say, wind roar on a motorcycle interferes with your ability to hear other traffic anyway. Wind roar on a bicycle is quite a lot lower, but not non-existent.
As you say, it's up to you.
- Massive London police traffic enforcement operation next week1 year 9 weeks agoReally, this is all
Really, this is all boondoggle. What's the point of burning money having police out giving tickets when people aren't even prosecuted for killing cyclists while driving and using a phone?
- Hein Verbruggen insists he has nothing to hide1 year 9 weeks agoBe nice to get them both
Be nice to get them both under oath, see who is willing to perjure themselves (again, in LA's case)
- Police operation to educate and advise cyclists and drivers raises questions about police education and advice1 year 9 weeks agoGotta love the part about
Gotta love the part about them "not wanting to blame any particular road user" haven't you.
It would be awful after all to unfairly victimize the particular road users actually partaking in the killing. The indifference and unwillingness to engage is unprecedented isn't it?
- Police operation to educate and advise cyclists and drivers raises questions about police education and advice1 year 9 weeks agoAlso motor patrol vehicles
Also motor patrol vehicles are the only police vehicles with cameras
- Hein Verbruggen insists he has nothing to hide1 year 9 weeks agoA good time to watch this
A good time to watch this again:
The man from V.I.A.L.
- Police operation to educate and advise cyclists and drivers raises questions about police education and advice1 year 9 weeks agoRevenue from tickets goes
Revenue from tickets goes straight to the treasury and not the force. Police forces are woefully understaffed so this type of op is few and far between and can't be carried out on a day basis unfortunately.