• Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoMade my changes and i haven't

    Made my changes and i haven't picked any of the top GC guys.

    Kept a few credits back for stage 4 when i may bring in a GC guy then or keep it in reserve for the sprint on stage 5.

  • Giro - Stage 2 (TTT)1 year 12 weeks agoPhilip Unwin wrote:In which

    Philip Unwin wrote:
    In which case can I make a point.
    If you were to be able to arrange your team to try to predict 1,2,3,4 and then 5 and put two members in each of your first four and then one in the fifth team and you were correct, (possible but unlikely) then across the line scores would total 20+18+16+14+6=74. However if you predicted 1,2,3,4,5 yesterday you would have got 132. This seems a little odd as each are equally as difficult. Plus yesterday you would also been guaranteed 1...5 in GC plus, plus etc.
    Maybe for future comps it could be looked at. Maybe 20,15,12 for 1,2,3 and then 7...1.
    Looking at the forum it seems a number of people have made no changes today to save four for tomorrow knowing that a bad day would only probably leave them about 50 in arrears, whereas a bad day yesterday would have left them 150+ in arrears.
    Before you ask, no I haven't arranged my team like that, but the thought did cross my mind and yesterday was not great but not a disaster. I had Cav, Goss and Nizz with one eye on today

    Just to back this up.
    The two people who finished =second today did so by having two riders each from sky, movistar and astana, which is picking 1,2,3 but scored a total of 86. Picking 1,2,3 on any other stage, just for crossing the line would have been 90, apart from any extras. Sorry this is NOT a rest day, it is stage two, and anybody who adjusted their team for today (probably using 2 transfers) has not benefited from their skill, judgement or luck, and lost out to people who have saved their transfers until tomorrow, safe in the knowledge that even a total 'mare' today would have not lost them any real ground in the overall. Anybody who left this one to save transfers for tomorrow has a bit of an advantage (although nobody knows if it will all come together tomorrow or not).

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote:i've gone

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    i've gone for his nibs, because i think the descent will suit him and it'd be a statement of intent. probably come to nothing though Smile

    I'm thinking the same. Tempted by Hesjedal also for similar reasons; he's not to be discounted.

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoIts going to be a difficult

    Its going to be a difficult stage and while I don't think we'll see a GC guy win I think they'll all be top 30 or 40 with a couple finishing top 20.

    Might be too early for Nibs but with 20 seconds on offer for the winner I wouldn't put it past him. Stage 4 will be harder though so they might take it easy.

    Basically, I've got no idea.

  • Stoemper Taylor frameset1 year 12 weeks agoWhat's wrong with TIG

    What's wrong with TIG construction? It makes for a lighter frame and stronger joints (vs. fillet brazed)

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoTuesdays stage might see a

    Tuesdays stage might see a pop by one of them with the descent from the cat 3 measuring 10k then straight onto the climb for the cat 2 just before the end ?

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoI think its too Soon For Any

    I think its too Soon For Any of the Gc Guys To Make A Move. So Its Going To Be An Orica Or Saxo or euskatel or katusha Winner Imho

  • Racing advice and tips1 year 12 weeks ago24-25mph I reckons

    24-25mph I reckons

  • Road etiquette1 year 12 weeks agoNormally I just give them a

    Normally I just give them a shove them off the road.

    Seems to work.

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoi've gone for his nibs,

    i've gone for his nibs, because i think the descent will suit him and it'd be a statement of intent. probably come to nothing though Smile

  • If aluminium cost as much per tonne as titanium, it would be the premium bike frame material. Agreed?1 year 12 weeks agoGkam84 wrote:bashthebox

    Gkam84 wrote:
    bashthebox wrote:
    There's a reason pros use Carbon.
    carbon is better because the pros use it.

    WRONG, The pro's have no choice as to what they are riding, the team are told their bike with be.... X and then they can fit whatever to it within the sponsor agreement.

    The reason they ride carbon in most races is because they are told to ride it.

    Look at pro's OUT of the race, alot of them are NOT using carbon frames Wink Wink

    That's a load of shit and you know it. Let's take the obvious example of Team Sky and their obsession with marginal gains. We're told again and again how they'll do anything to shave fractions of watts off their effort - you think if carbon wasn't the best choice for frames that they would still use it? Come on. Sky have a huge budget from their main sponsor; bike sponsor budget is pretty small in comparison - they ride whatever makes them fastest.

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote:i can't

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    i can't see the true sprinters getting over that last hill in contention, but you never know. maybe OPQS clocked off at the TTT today to give cav the best shot of a win tomorrow? i'll be cross if they did cause i subbed him out Smile

    That was exactly my thinking watching it today hence I kept cav and another sprinter who's team seemed to do the same ....but I also think the last climb could be an opportunity for the likes of Nibali to attack and try to get some time into sir Wiggo on the descent Thinking

  • Matt White receives backdated ban for doping admission1 year 12 weeks agoWHERE ARE MATT"S ARMS? HOW

    WHERE ARE MATT"S ARMS?

    HOW WILL HE CLAP IN VIDEOS?

  • If aluminium cost as much per tonne as titanium, it would be the premium bike frame material. Agreed?1 year 12 weeks agorobert.brady wrote:It simply

    robert.brady wrote:
    It simply isn't feasible to come up with the current aero frame shapes using Ti or even new alu techniques like hydro forming. Alu and Ti TT bikes look laughably dated compared to carbon.

    not sure i agree that it's not feasible. look at some of the stuff that kinesis are doing with superplastic forming; you can pretty much make any shape you want.

    and don't forget that the daddy of all aero bikes is alu: the cervelo s1. And it's still a better ride than many aero carbon bikes.

    it's important to understand that aluminium didn't get a very long development run before carbon was introduced. bike manufacturers picked up carbon so quickly for a simple reason: it's easy to make complicated, light and strong structures with it. not cheap necessarily, but not hard.

    alu was relegated to 'cheap' bikes and wasn't developed much. but what we're seeing now is more of the R&D time going into to possibilities of alu. and there's some impressive stuff out there: look at canyon and rose, and giant's new TCR alu frame is only just over a kilo. a sub-1kg alu frame in the next two years is a certainty.

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoStage 1: 152 Stage 2:

    Stage 1: 152
    Stage 2: 3548

    Overall 3451

    But my purist team went up 1209 places today Nerd

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks ago6000 posts Mr A

    6000 posts Mr A Applause

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoi can't see the true

    i can't see the true sprinters getting over that last hill in contention, but you never know. maybe OPQS clocked off at the TTT today to give cav the best shot of a win tomorrow? i'll be cross if they did cause i subbed him out Smile

  • If aluminium cost as much per tonne as titanium, it would be the premium bike frame material. Agreed?1 year 12 weeks agoThat one doesn't count,

    That one doesn't count, because he races steel aswell Wink

  • Giro - Stage 2 (TTT)1 year 12 weeks agoCheers Dave, extends my lead

    Cheers Dave, extends my lead over you at the top of Forum Scorum Big Grin

  • If aluminium cost as much per tonne as titanium, it would be the premium bike frame material. Agreed?1 year 12 weeks agorobert.brady wrote:Top end

    robert.brady wrote:
    Top end bikes are heading in a different direction now: aero. It simply isn't feasible to come up with the current aero frame shapes using Ti or even new alu techniques like hydro forming. Alu and Ti TT bikes look laughably dated compared to carbon.

    Frames nowadays can be light AND strong AND stiff AND comfortable (to an extent) and that can be achieved with Ti and alu. The difference is; light Ti and alu is around 1200g while for carbon it's around 900g and in some cases a lot less.

    You couldn't put the same premium on alu as you can carbon. It isn't justifiable.

    Alu bars and stems make sense to me because they're more likely to bend rather than break leaving the bike ridable.

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Look at pro's OUT of the race, alot of them are NOT using carbon frames Wink Wink

    Got any pics?

    Rob


    snapped Dean Downings training bike at a press day last year : Steel!

  • Road etiquette1 year 12 weeks agoIf I am catching a group of

    If I am catching a group of riders, I go out of my way to power through, up into the 52/9 and power up. Then I get some funny looks as my trike goes flying past, only for them to catch my up when I'm spinning 30/34 on a little uphill Devil

  • Giro Tech 2013 - Sir Bradley Wiggins' Pinarello Graal TT bike…maybe1 year 12 weeks agoTudo bein My wife is from a

    Tudo bein

    My wife is from a costal village just outside Lisbon.

    Better get this back on track.

    Nice Pinarello. Smile

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agocan anyone beat my

    can anyone beat my inconsistency?

    stage 1: 1st
    stage 2: 3948th

    heading back up tomorrow

    Smile

  • Giro - Stage 2 (TTT)1 year 12 weeks agolivestrongnick wrote:umm

    livestrongnick wrote:
    umm youth points don't seem to have been awarded? Thinking

    they have, just to the wrong people in two cases. will be updated

  • Giro stage 31 year 12 weeks agoHoward possibly if he can get

    Howard possibly if he can get there, it depends how selective the front group ends up, someone like Ventoso maybe or Phinney might be that little bit stronger and more likely to end up fighting for the win. Maybe Navardauskas?