• 'Last Man to Score' Tour de France Challenge1 year 9 weeks agoI'm sure I've got most of

    I'm sure I've got most of them in my Purist team.

    (Those that haven't already dropped out anyway.)

  • 'Last Man to Score' Tour de France Challenge1 year 9 weeks agoWords fail me....

    Words fail me....

  • Tour De France - Stage 19 - Bourg-d'Oisans / Le Grand-Bornand1 year 9 weeks agoTempted to gamble on the

    Tempted to gamble on the break staying out and drop Froome for...
    Dan Martin?
    Rolland?
    Rui Costa?
    Evans??
    But probably won't...

  • Price inflation1 year 9 weeks agoGkam84 wrote:Holy Moly,

    Gkam84 wrote:
    Holy Moly, enrique has come up with an idea I like...

    I aim to please Smile ... and entertain Wink ...

  • Price inflation1 year 9 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote:you can't

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    you can't just feck about with the rider value half way through a grand tour. please don't be daft.

    Lighten up, Mr. Atkinson! Big Grin

    I can't believe you took it as anything but a joke Big Grin

    Just trying to liven things up a little Big Grin

    Please don't be daft enough to believe everything I write.

    In the words of Jeremy Clarkson:

    "I don't believe what I write, any more than you (Alastair Campbell) believe what you say" Big Grin

    Just kidding, though if it wasnt such a serious game, wouldn't it be fun? Thinking

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoCalm down Dears It is a bike

    Calm down Dears

    It is a bike race after all, I am as passionate as the next person to see clean racing and performance data will aid in catching cheats.

    I reiterate will aid, it does not prove doping or clean riding it can be indicator of something suspicious but a negative does not prove a positive or visa versa. I am as interested in VoMax, Lactate tolerance and recovery data (which I have not seen) as I am in power output. The current SRAM data obsession places us all at risk of being blinded by watts.

    Finally clean riding does not mean more equal performances potentially the reverse may be true as genetic differences between riders are not camouflaged (compensated?) by artificial means. Should we therefore genetically test potential racers to ensure they fall within one or two standard deviations of whatever the norm genetic makeup of a human is before issuing them a racing licence.

  • Price inflation1 year 9 weeks agoSanderville wrote:...The TdF

    Sanderville wrote:
    ...The TdF must account for a huge chunk of any team's annual budget... It costs the sponsors more, it costs Eurosport more pie money for Carlton Kirby, it costs road.cc more to post all those mini-pumps that I never win. It's a big-budget affair.

    So give us a bigger budget.

    ...I'm only suggesting an increase of 50 points or so to avoid being forced to pick the same four cheapest riders as every other player in the game.

    Is it unworkable to give people more money for the TdF than for the Tour of Poland?

    What a beautifully simple thought. I admire how you framed it so naturally. Sounds good to me! Smile

    Sanderville wrote:
    I was being uncharacteristically ironic...

    And I enjoy that (!) Thanks for the post and the lighthearted rambling! Smile

  • Tour de France - Stage 18, Gap > Alpe-d’Huez1 year 9 weeks agolivestrongnick

    livestrongnick wrote:
    stevemarks wrote:
    plus schleck for the mountain points.

    umm from what i've seen he didn't get any kom points!? Thinking

    My bad missed the 6 or 7 incognito riders first time up the Alpe who made up nos 4-9

    Crying Crying Crying Crying

  • Price inflation1 year 9 weeks agoI was being

    I was being uncharacteristically ironic in my original post but this is all getting unnecessarily complicated. Changing algorithms and scoring systems is over the top. This situation has come about because the riders selected for the TdF have form that means they aren't cheap. It probably won't happen for any other race.

    The TdF must account for a huge chunk of any team's annual budget - more bus fuel, more hotel rooms, more bidons, more chamois cream, more everything. It costs the sponsors more, it costs Eurosport more pie money for Carlton Kirby, it costs road.cc more to post all those mini-pumps that I never win. It's a big-budget affair.

    So give us a bigger budget.

    This probably won't happen for the Vuelta, but if it does then just up the budget a bit. I'm only suggesting an increase of 50 points or so to avoid being forced to pick the same four cheapest riders as every other player in the game.

    Is it unworkable to give people more money for the TdF than for the Tour of Poland?

  • Tour de France Stage 18 reaction following double ascent of Alpe d'Huez1 year 9 weeks agoCooks wrote:I want to know

    Cooks wrote:
    I want to know what was in that gel....

    Why, Powdered Toast, of course!

  • Sustrans: Cyclists should slow down1 year 9 weeks agoI'm surprised that you list

    I'm surprised that you list Sustrans and CTC in the same sentence, since their objectives and modus operandi are so different.

    CTC wants more people on bikes, while Sustrans wants more money to build more shared use paths.

    CTC is a democratic membership organisation, while Sustrans is an unaccountable oligarchy.

  • Price inflation1 year 9 weeks agoHoly Moly, enrique has come

    Holy Moly, enrique has come up with an idea I like.

    YES, in a 9 rider per team race, it would be quite easy to make one rider from each team a super cheap guy

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote:Alpe

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    Alpe d'Huez isn't a laboratory and the tour de france isn't a controlled experiment, so comparing two performances five years apart doesn't tell us much. variables include training regime and racing schedule leading up to the stage, miles ridden in the season, position of the climb in the race, length and difficulty of the stage, position of the rider in the race, role of the rider in the race, team orders during the stage, weather, whether the rider was having a good day or a bad one, etc, etc, etc.

    Grappe certainly doesn't say Froome is clean. but at least he's being useful in the debate, decster. you should try it. just saying 'difference between two numbers equals doping' doesn't really help anyone.

    I agree that you can't compare a performance from one year to the next where the position of the rider has changed (i.e. domestique to GC rider). The way you ride the mountain changes massively. But the change from anonymous domestique in a team with no discernable GC rider to GC rider is quite a leap.

    In the wake of the Armstrong scandal we are seeing that there is no political will to catch dopers to save the sport from further issues. It also appears that the anti-doping groups are still lagging behind the dopers (if we think that Frank Schleck's positive was a one off, and that it is full story, it is not. He just got hit for a masking agent, so the full depth of how he was doping and what he was doping on remains a mystery). As a result I do not foresee any scandals coming out if this tour as a result. So I guess we can all just get on and enjoy the competition.

    Of course the dead bodies may rise up from the lake sometime in the future.

  • New Hoops. Advice wanted1 year 9 weeks agoCampag Zonda should fit the

    Campag Zonda should fit the bill. Great all rounders, fast, stiff, light. I'm really pleased with mine. Stick a set of of Conti GP4000S on them and you are sorted.

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoDave, you are on the side of

    Dave, you are on the side of Sky as you make money from their success indirectly.

    Would you bite the hand the feeds you?

    This a cycling site, not a journalistic one so i dont expect you to be balanced. Also based in UK with its horrendous libel laws you have to be careful.

    So we can all accept Grappe is a credible analyst, the guy who got it so wrong on Armstrong?

    I am a massive fan of the sport of cycling. I have watched since the early 80's. I reckon i can be a decent judge of what I am seeing on a bike on a mountain. If others dont, grand.

    Froome is not clean imo.

    I will leave Road.cc to its sky love fest. That people have not learned from the past is a human trait, so i am not surprised in a UK website now refusing to see one of its own doping.

    May the road rise with y'all.

  • New Hoops. Advice wanted1 year 9 weeks agoMight be stretching the

    Might be stretching the budget a little, but I think these are perfect hoops Wink

    http://www.claires.co.uk/pws/ProductDetails.ice?ProductID=11591

  • Tour de France Stage 18 reaction following double ascent of Alpe d'Huez1 year 9 weeks agoI want to know what was in

    I want to know what was in that gel....

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoDecster wrote:most who were

    Decster wrote:
    most who were great GT talents showed early

    oh well that proves it then. that's not woolly at all.

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoAlpe d'Huez isn't a

    Alpe d'Huez isn't a laboratory and the tour de france isn't a controlled experiment, so comparing two performances five years apart doesn't tell us much. variables include training regime and racing schedule leading up to the stage, miles ridden in the season, position of the climb in the race, length and difficulty of the stage, position of the rider in the race, role of the rider in the race, team orders during the stage, weather, whether the rider was having a good day or a bad one, etc, etc, etc.

    Grappe certainly doesn't say Froome is clean. but at least he's being useful in the debate, decster. you should try it. just saying 'difference between two numbers equals doping' doesn't really help anyone.

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoaslongasicycle wrote:Decster

    aslongasicycle wrote:
    Decster wrote:
    anyone care to explain the 'huge gains' for Alpe D'huez from.

    2008 | Chris Froome: 51 min 13 sec.
    2013 | Chris Froome: 40 min 56 sec.

    Grappe specifically tweeted that he doesn't pass judgment on whether Froome is clean or not. He certainly does NOT say he thinks Froome is clean

    Well he was 22, in a pants team, not in yellow, probably not going full gas and lots of other unknowable stuff.
    It's not a worthy comparison.

    So lets not try hard becuase the team are rank amateurs and Froome didn't want to show his talents on the biggest stage and a famous mountain to boot.

    He was 22, most who were great GT talents showed early. Froome has destroyed everyone. He wasn't showing that at 22.

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoDecster wrote:anyone care to

    Decster wrote:
    anyone care to explain the 'huge gains' for Alpe D'huez from.

    2008 | Chris Froome: 51 min 13 sec.
    2013 | Chris Froome: 40 min 56 sec.

    Grappe specifically tweeted that he doesn't pass judgment on whether Froome is clean or not. He certainly does NOT say he thinks Froome is clean

    Well he was 22, in a pants team, not in yellow, probably not going full gas and lots of other unknowable stuff.
    It's not a worthy comparison.

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoIn case some fans of Froome

    In case some fans of Froome think Grappe and L'Equipe cannot be wrong, well L'Equipe have a vested interest in the Le Tour and well Grappe thought Armstrong was clean in 2001

    http://autobus.cyclingnews.com/results/2001/feb01/feb09news.shtml

    Well done Brailsford for finding a guy who would get it wrong again.

    As for Brailsford suggesting WADA, he would know that WADA would never ever do such as thing as look at figures and pass a rider as clean. UKAD have come out said similar saying they do not issue 'Kite marks' for riders.

    For those that can see, Sky have failed to prove anything but create more doubts about their team and riders.

  • Updated: Trek launch 2014 range1 year 9 weeks agoHello all. Just wanted to

    Hello all. Just wanted to answer some of your questions.

    Madone and Domane 4 Series bikes will be available in Project One on September 1.

    Many of the bikes, including WSD versions are in stock now. Check with your local Trek retailer for specific models.

    Crocketts are pure cross bikes, whereas Crossrips are cross bikes set up more for longer distance commuting. If you wanted to race cross, the Crocket is the better option.

    No disc road bikes for us right now. We are researching them, but we won't bring something to market unless we're satisfied that it's done right. We haven't reached that comfort level with disc road bike design, so nothing from us in that category at this time.

    Any other questions?

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoanyone care to explain the

    anyone care to explain the 'huge gains' for Alpe D'huez from.

    2008 | Chris Froome: 51 min 13 sec.
    2013 | Chris Froome: 40 min 56 sec.

    Grappe specifically tweeted that he doesn't pass judgment on whether Froome is clean or not. He certainly does NOT say he thinks Froome is clean

  • L'Equipe analyses Froome's climbing data, finds it 'normal' and 'consistent'1 year 9 weeks agoSuper Domestique wrote:Any

    Super Domestique wrote:
    Any proof that Big Mig ever doped? (genuine question, not seen anything on it personally)

    Indurain tested positive at the 1994 Tour de l'Oise. Salbutamol was banned in France at the time but had not yet found its way onto the UCI's banned list. Indurain was not sanctioned.

    Dutch broadcaster NOS quoted Italian investigator Sandro Donati who claimed that Banesto riders including Indurain were involved with Dr Conconi and another source corroborated the story.