• Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoAnyone else spot the crowd

    Anyone else spot the crowd control copper strolling along in the middle of the road with his back to the riders, just as the bulk of the peleton got to the top of Holme Moss?

  • Edinburgh launches new bid to bring Tour de France to Scotland1 year 4 weeks agoBut Giobox, you've missed the

    But Giobox, you've missed the point!

    The Yorkshire bid had a defined identity right from the start. Yorkshire through and through - Le Tour de Yorkshire.

    The Edinburgh bid was some vague "Oh! We'll start in Edinburgh and we'll end up in London ... err, and we'll ride through England err, and Wales, can't forget Wales ... err, that's as far as we've got. We've got funding though!"

    This is why the next Edinburgh bid must have an identity, make it Le Tour d'Ecosse. Shortbread, tartan, Burns, whisky, Buckfast and Sir Walter Scott. It doesn't matter that most of your history is fake and/or English get out there and sell it! Big Grin

  • Modern day Evans opinion1 year 4 weeks agoThe test ride experience in

    The test ride experience in Evans is pretty crappy compared to most decent independent bike shops. I've used. They made me leave a card, and put through a refundable transaction of a quid the only time I tried it. Its not the money I object to, more the crappy customer experience.

    Every LBS I've used just let me hop on and ride. As others have said, any half way reasonable bike shop will order in whatever frame size you need, and may even be able to measure you up and work out precisely what size/geometry from the various brands will fit you best.

    If you must finance the bike, surely other options such as opening a 0% credit card deal makes more sense?

  • Canyon Roadlite Frameset1 year 4 weeks agoI don't think you'll get

    I don't think you'll get better than that for the money tbh. If you are considering £200 more for a total budget of 560 quid did you look at the Kinesis Aithein? A really nice option, although I think the largest they do is a 56 which might be an issue for your hight.

  • Smart or flashy wheels1 year 4 weeks agoFulcrum zeros. Zipp 60s are

    Fulcrum zeros. Zipp 60s are gonna be almost half a kilo heavier on your bike. The zero is one of the best alloy clinchers around, the Zipp 60 on the other hand is a very entry level carbon/alloy wheelset. Take off the the Zipp sticker and the 60 really isn't all that compelling a wheelset.

  • Edinburgh launches new bid to bring Tour de France to Scotland1 year 4 weeks agolevermonkey wrote:The reason

    levermonkey wrote:
    The reason that Yorkshire won and has made such a huge success of the opening two stages is very, very simple. Right from the off the people of Yorkshire were involved and actively encouraged to seize it and make the event their own. If you can enthuse the local population then you really can move mountains.

    Perhaps. That said, at least the Edinburgh bid was a fully funded proposal. The Yorkshire bid kinda bounced the UK government into paying, otherwise facing international ridicule if the event failed. I always found it strange that the Yorkshire bid got as far is it did without actually having the money to pay for it in place!

    As a spectacle a stage on the mound in Edinburgh racing up to the castle would have been quite something. Heres hoping a future bid finds success.

    Really good article on the Edinburgh vs Yorkshire for 2014 here: http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/cycling/tour-de-france-2014-how-a-det...

  • Advice - Shimano Ultegra 6800 Groupset vs Campagnolo Athena Carbon Groupset1 year 4 weeks agoFor me it is Campag all the

    For me it is Campag all the way, I have ridden bikes with Shimano 1055 back in the 80/90's and it was ok but I did break a lot of things. Things like bottom bracket cups, axles, replaced several cranks and even a hub (well the bearing cups) with Campag CDA/ Record I never had any issues. I have recently started replacing my old record items for more modern parts, I found that as usual Campag build quality is second to none and you have to admit it looks so good. But it looks nicer and I actually like the clunky gear change as I find it a help for me to know I have changed gear, as I had to come away from the old levers on the down tube to them being on the brake levers.

    Personally you want the silver groupset as it will stand out perfectly, you want everyone to know you have Campag on your bike.

  • Game Suggestions1 year 4 weeks agoenrique wrote:Dave, can we

    enrique wrote:
    Dave, can we have an option next year of having our first page to come up in the game be the rider selection page of the current competition?...
    Dave, what I mean is this... Here I am... tired... dispirited... and I'm thinking about doing my transfers and then I realize I have to go sign in, land on the 'Home' page, to see my information for the whole year, which I'm not particularly interested in right now, then look up at the tabs to make sure I don't click on the women's comp, which will probably be there all season, then click on 'TDF'and then click again to 'Select Team', it's like a marathon... It takes almost as long to get to do my transfers as it does to read one of my posts! Smile Agh, I'm just a grumpy old man... Thinking

  • WHy has my thread been deleted???1 year 4 weeks agoOh, dear. I've now got a

    Oh, dear. I've now got a crying boy in my hands. You boys keep talking while I try to soothe him. I am so embarrassed by this whole situation. You are such nice people, I hope he doesn't hold a grudge against you. I wish I could help him, but I can't.

  • Is it worth a wheel upgrade?1 year 4 weeks agoHaha..tell it as it is Colin.

    Haha..tell it as it is Colin. I was 15st 7lb before I started cycling but seemed to have stopped losing weight at 13st 10lb...I am 5'11". Could lose a bit more, I suppose.

  • Need help choosing my first bike for £10001 year 4 weeks agoPlanet X and Cotic have road

    Planet X and Cotic have road bikes on the C2W, which seem reasonable value. Ridgeback & Dawes have understated tourers that may be of interest. Or keep the MF for 'work' and buy another for 'play'.
    Mudguards, bottle cages & rack mounts are essential for commuting.
    Mechanical disc brakes on a road bike are a bit of a stop-gap: you may want to wait until next year when Shimano's RS685 hydraulics hit the shops and give them a try before deciding.
    Are the guys in the shop biased, if they can't supply the Hoy?
    Don't buy anything expensive unless you have somewhere ultra-secure to leave it at each end of your commute.
    Whatever you go for, make sure you test ride it first. They all seem comfortable in the shop.

  • Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoOtis Bragg wrote:An even

    Otis Bragg wrote:
    An even bigger pain in the backside is those gabshites who use iPads to take photos. While at 2 different stages during the Giro, standing in my carefully chosen spots, what had been great viewing positions were screwed seconds before the peloton arrived with ignorant bolloxes suddenly jumping in front of me and holding A4 sized screens up blocking my view of the riders.

    Why don't people realise that their obsession with viewing the world through a screen is ruining other spectators' enjoyment. Same goes for those idiots that hold up great big signs at the Belgian classics. And don't get me started on people waving enormous flags at music festivals so nobody behind them can see the stage.

  • Smart or flashy wheels1 year 4 weeks agoHave Fulcrum 3's and love

    Have Fulcrum 3's and love them. Go aluminum, go cool. Legendary campagnolo durability can't be wrong

  • Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoAn even bigger pain in the

    An even bigger pain in the backside is those gabshites who use iPads to take photos. While at 2 different stages during the Giro, standing in my carefully chosen spots, what had been great viewing positions were screwed seconds before the peloton arrived with ignorant bolloxes suddenly jumping in front of me and holding A4 sized screens up blocking my view of the riders. In one of them I was at the 75m to go at Belfast city hall as the sprinters were hammering it on and one iPad wielding sheep leant so far over the barriers I don't know how they missed him.

  • Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoI really don't understand the

    I really don't understand the selfie craze. Why wait for ages to see a bike race and then in the few seconds in which it passes have your back to it. Are people worried that nobody will believe they were there unless they appear in the photos.

    Risking injury to themselves an others for the sake of a photo.
    Tejay Van Garderen summed it up as a dangerous mix of vanity and stupidity.

  • Smart or flashy wheels1 year 4 weeks agoCharliegr555 wrote:Ideally

    Charliegr555 wrote:
    Ideally want an aluminium braking surface to keep confidence on decent sand corners

    Where would I be without aluminium rims?! Well they would've carved a few gravestones saying "he lieth Colin, decent sand corners notwithstanding, he'd still be with us" by now I can tell you.

    Is that a particular hazard in your part of the country? Would you recommend riding 23s or 25s on that?......oh, I know you hate me, but I couldn't resist.

  • Is it worth a wheel upgrade?1 year 4 weeks agoI would go Mavic Ksyerium

    I would go Mavic Ksyerium too. Also, have you tried cutting out sugar? I was close to 13
    stone, but unless you're 6ft 3, it's not a fighting weight. Still, cycling is about what you want from it, and if you don't mind fighting gradients then who I am I to say different....but I can say it worked for me (the wheels and sugar).

  • Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoGotta' say I say I love the

    Gotta' say I say I love the Contador photo bomb (although I hate that term).

  • Otley residents accuse Cambridge of putting on a 'flat and boring' Tour reception… though it hasn't happened yet1 year 4 weeks agolevermonkey

    levermonkey wrote:
    EarsoftheWolf wrote:
    “Cambridge should realise it is a shop window. It is remiss of them not to seize the opportunity."

    If you've ever been to Cambridge, you'd realise it probably doesn't need a "shop window" to promote itself as much as some places in Yorkshire might. Cambridge is heaving with tourists from all over the world, not just in July but most of the rest of the year too. Chinese tourists are queueing to go punting even when there's ice on the river in January. Yorkshire is grabbing the opportunity because it has more to gain.

    Also, it's much more easy to be celebratory and welcoming of an event when it's on a weekend and you don't need to worry how you're going to get to work. I'm lucky that my company has closed their office for the day tomorrow so I don't have to worry about it, but many others are not so fortunate. People shouldn't be criticised for having legitimate concerns, just because they're not "getting into the spirit".

    Oh! Dear!
    So Cambridge has no need for the extra money that the Tour will bring?
    There are no 'sink' estates in Cambridge?
    No examples of social deprivation, alienation, no social problems in Cambridge of any kind?
    You live in a perfect little theme park of colleges, punting on the river and 'traditional' England?

    Oh! And of course NO-ONE works on a weekend, do they? And the North is a blasted waste filled with wild tribes and strange beasts.

    Yes, I am being facetious. But you started it! Big Grin

    Woow! Didn't know it was a competition?!? Someone ought to tell France and Belgium

  • Otley residents accuse Cambridge of putting on a 'flat and boring' Tour reception… though it hasn't happened yet1 year 4 weeks agoMy friend put it this way

    My friend put it this way "free, major sporting event in Yorkshire. It's not rock science!"

  • Otley residents accuse Cambridge of putting on a 'flat and boring' Tour reception… though it hasn't happened yet1 year 4 weeks agoLet's put this in

    Let's put this in perspective: weekend action when people don't have to take time off versus work day. It's not going to get the same following. And, if does then fair play. London is still going to be rammed.

  • Tour de France stars thrilled by Yorkshire Grand Depart - but not by fans taking selfies1 year 4 weeks agoI've often thought that they

    I've often thought that they should send a snowplough up ahead of the riders. Maybe with blades charged to 50kV

  • Tour de France stage 21 year 4 weeks agoI dropped like a stone today.

    I dropped like a stone today. 5 transfers wasted including putting Modolo back in after he withdrew. D'oh!

  • WHy has my thread been deleted???1 year 4 weeks agoDave Atkinson wrote:i'm not

    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    i'm not interested in your victim complex, i'm interested in keeping the road.cc forum a nice place to be. it's significantly less nice with you pissing and moaning on it the whole time, so i've made the decision to mute you (on both accounts).

    if you think that's impinging on your free speech, you should probably go and look up free speech and see what it actually means.

    Thank god for that.

  • Need help choosing my first bike for £10001 year 4 weeks agoI've never heard of the

    I've never heard of the Dorset before. Read the review and the only thing that looks pony is the Mega Exo Bottom Bracket. Utter rubbish. Expect to replace every 2000 miles at least if commuting in all weathers.Dunno about the Hoy but the Cube is a great bike but different to the Dorset in that it doesn't take mudguards.

    If commuting, get one that easily takes mudguards. My bike doesn't and its a pain.