• Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoIf a driver has this, or any

    If a driver has this, or any other of the 'cyclist warning' stickers that abound, on his vehicle, then he is acknowledging that his vehicle is a hazard to other road users. This means it should not be allowed on the road. In the case of an accident involving a vehicle with such a sticker, clearly the driver is aware of the hazard and has not taken account of it. In that case he is guilty of dangerous driving and has no discernible defence.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agotimfearn wrote: Does anyone

    timfearn wrote:

    Does anyone know why taxi drivers are allowed to use bus lanes anyway? Taxis aren't classed as essential public transport are they?

    My guess? Black cabs are used heavily by media types and politicians and other influential people (mostly on expense accounts). The sort of folk who decide what the rules should be.

    Much like the old Soviet Union had special 'Zil lanes' for party apparatchiks, I reckon.

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agooozaveared wrote:AyBee

    oozaveared wrote:
    AyBee wrote:
    "The stickers have angered many cyclists who see them as putting responsibility for cycling safety on the victims and potential victims of driver carelessness, and as implying that cyclists are second-class road users who should defer to motor vehicles."

    Absolute b*llocks! Cycling safety should lie first and foremost with the cyclist - do everything you can to keep yourself out of danger. If it's safe to do so, ignore the sign, it really is that simple. If you're going to get angered by this, you should probably adjust your perspective on life!

    Yes you should do what you can to be as safe as you can be. But all road users rely to a greater or lesser extent on all the other road users to keep them safe. We all have a duty of care.

    Motorists can kill each other and regularly do. The only difference is vulnerability. HGV drivers have more training and a more difficult test and they have a much higher duty of care because of the potential for damage that their vehicle has. And on downwards. The bits of that continuum we talk about on here are when it gets to the relationship between cyclists and motorists. And yes motorists owe cyclists a duty of care. And yes cyclists on say a mixed use path owe pedestrians a duty of care.

    Absolutely.

  • Railway staff catch thieves stealing bike - and let them get on with it1 year 5 weeks agoI could prove it quite

    I could prove it quite easily, with one of the many photos of my bikes I have on my phone.

    I appreciate not everyone is as pathetic as me, though.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoUsh wrote: It's a mistake to

    Ush wrote:

    It's a mistake to assume that all women are like that either... my wife for one wouldn't have much time for the idea that she's incapable of riding assertively and has to wait for the non-existent infrastructure.... Speaking of that infrastructure, if it were possible to convince society to change its expenditures and laws so radically that we could get a dutch infrastructure elsewhere, then it ought to be possible to make other changes, such as accepting that a bicycle's rightful place is being driven safely and courteously without harrasment or fear in primary position in a lane.

    Hey, I certainly didn't suggest that all women are like that. Wouldn't dream of saying that. Merely that its a statistical correlation of a sort, for whatever reason (probably social).

    I personally think the first change is more possible than the latter, though I grant you both do seem a very long way off. The latter has never happened anywhere, after all and I think goes against human nature (which is to abuse any power advantages you might have over others). Changing physical structures seems more plausible than changing human nature.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoAyBee wrote:"The stickers

    AyBee wrote:
    "The stickers have angered many cyclists who see them as putting responsibility for cycling safety on the victims and potential victims of driver carelessness, and as implying that cyclists are second-class road users who should defer to motor vehicles."

    Absolute b*llocks! Cycling safety should lie first and foremost with the cyclist - do everything you can to keep yourself out of danger. If it's safe to do so, ignore the sign, it really is that simple. If you're going to get angered by this, you should probably adjust your perspective on life!

    Yes you should do what you can to be as safe as you can be. But all road users rely to a greater or lesser extent on all the other road users to keep them safe. We all have a duty of care.

    Motorists can kill each other and regularly do. The only difference is vulnerability. HGV drivers have more training and a more difficult test and they have a much higher duty of care because of the potential for damage that their vehicle has. And on downwards. The bits of that continuum we talk about on here are when it gets to the relationship between cyclists and motorists. And yes motorists owe cyclists a duty of care. And yes cyclists on say a mixed use path owe pedestrians a duty of care.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoAyBee wrote: Absolute

    AyBee wrote:

    Absolute b*llocks! Cycling safety should lie first and foremost with the cyclist

    No it shouldn't.

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoSorry but as a cyclist I

    Sorry but as a cyclist I don't understand what the problem is. It's a simple message to give a little bit of room for the cyclists own safety.
    This just seems to be another excuse for cyclists to kick off at car/lorry drivers. The truth is everyone needs to do better, cyclists included.

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoI thought “baby on board”

    I thought “baby on board” stickers always referred to the driver Smile

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agonorthstar wrote:giff77

    northstar wrote:
    giff77 wrote:
    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:
    Looking at these a completely different way.

    Are these stickers the new "Baby/Princess/Tw*t on board"? I.e. dickhead warning, in which case bring them on. At least we have half a chance of backing off and away from dangerous driving. Can not really complain as I have a "Bloody Cyclist" jersey. Wonder if I can get away with "Fing Back Off !" on a jersey

    On a slightly different topic, way do some cyclist feel the need to move up traffic queues in places were there isn't a cycle lane? We are all road users and abide by the highway code aren't we?

    Don't need a sticker to let me know this. My perception of all motorists is that they're d***heads until they give me room or do not tailgate me. I now when negotiating a narrow section or traffic calming measure pull out to 4 drop my right hand and point to my rear wheel and wag my figure if a vehicle is behind. Once clear I drop back to 1and wave the driver behind through. I've found that in most cases I'm then given plenty of room apart from the occasional Beemer/Audi who are incensed that I've delayed them by approximately 2 seconds. It seems to me that I've made the driver aware that I'm aware of their presence and is my own version of Back Off

    Waving through anyone is a bad idea, you are opening a whole new can of worms which you do not want to do.

    Well i also use the same gesture to indicate drivers should stay back for a second and yes most do get it.

    You know a lot of the aggro is that many drivers feel nervous around cyclists. Some aren't quite sure how to deal with you. Their instinct is to get past and not have the problem anymore. Riding assertively let's them know what to do. So yes I look then signal and morve to the primary through pinch points. And I use that back off a bit hand signal as well. So in the same spirit when the road widens I pull back to the secondary and wave them on on with a thank you wave as well. It's polite. I very often gat wave back or a friendly toot or a hazard light flash in recognition. And actually the more all of us do that the more used to it motorists become. They see a pinch point, see you move over and know it's not you trying to annoy them and that as soon as the pinch point is passed they'll be on their way.

    There is no can of worms regarding liability. That's a myth. You can wave people through, flash them through you could even get out and personally invite them through. But they are in charge of their vehicle so have to make their own decisions and are liable for them.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoLike Giff and Bikebud...I too

    Like Giff and Bikebud...I too use this method of indicating to other road users that there is (either) a bottleneck or an obstacle that I wish to negotiate and to hang back until I'm clear...unfortunately it is only ever recognised and followed in about 20% of the cases I've used it. Likewise someone needs to educate drivers to slow and keep behind the cyclist instead of overtaking and pulling in immediately in front, such as a driveway or junction exit...that is just saying, yeah I did see you there but I REALLY DON'T GIVE A FqCK....

  • single speed1 year 5 weeks agoHave you looked at Merlin

    Have you looked at Merlin cycles they do a lovely little one with a flip flop hub called "single malt" this comes with bull horns but the brake levers (are small fashionista style things) mounted near the centre, not where you need them.

    If your good with your hands I suggest fitting time trial type levers to the ends and either cover cables with bar tape or drill the bars to hide (internally) the cables back to just b4 the stem.

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agonorthstar wrote:giff77

    northstar wrote:
    giff77 wrote:
    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:
    Looking at these a completely different way.

    Are these stickers the new "Baby/Princess/Tw*t on board"? I.e. dickhead warning, in which case bring them on. At least we have half a chance of backing off and away from dangerous driving. Can not really complain as I have a "Bloody Cyclist" jersey. Wonder if I can get away with "Fing Back Off !" on a jersey

    On a slightly different topic, way do some cyclist feel the need to move up traffic queues in places were there isn't a cycle lane? We are all road users and abide by the highway code aren't we?

    Don't need a sticker to let me know this. My perception of all motorists is that they're d***heads until they give me room or do not tailgate me. I now when negotiating a narrow section or traffic calming measure pull out to 4 drop my right hand and point to my rear wheel and wag my figure if a vehicle is behind. Once clear I drop back to 1and wave the driver behind through. I've found that in most cases I'm then given plenty of room apart from the occasional Beemer/Audi who are incensed that I've delayed them by approximately 2 seconds. It seems to me that I've made the driver aware that I'm aware of their presence and is my own version of Back Off

    Waving through anyone is a bad idea, you are opening a whole new can of worms which you do not want to do.

    Should have said I'll only wave through once when sure oncoming is clear and I can see no vehicles on side streets. I have in the past blocked drivers from passing me on blind bends and hump backed bridges.

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks ago"The stickers have angered

    "The stickers have angered many cyclists who see them as putting responsibility for cycling safety on the victims and potential victims of driver carelessness, and as implying that cyclists are second-class road users who should defer to motor vehicles."

    Absolute b*llocks! Cycling safety should lie first and foremost with the cyclist - do everything you can to keep yourself out of danger. If it's safe to do so, ignore the sign, it really is that simple. If you're going to get angered by this, you should probably adjust your perspective on life!

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    I think he's confusing "less difficult" with "less hilly", surely if he's too scared to take part this year it's because it's actually more difficult?

  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agoPauldmorgan wrote:I wonder

    Pauldmorgan wrote:
    I wonder whether there could be an unintended (?) consequence of these stickers with respect to liability and damages in event of a collision: could a lawyer for a driver argue for reduced liability and compensation payable if the vehicle had a "stay back" sticker and the cyclist had "ignored it".

    i.e. what basis do these stickers have in law?


    None I would assume. It is yet another pointless band aid to deal with cyclist safety rather than deal with the real issues of infrastructure in cities; charges, and sentencing within the court system. I would never filter down the inside of traffic personally nor would I encourage it. Either sit in the flow of traffic if near the junction or overtake until you need to pull back across. It is up to us to pass on our skills to those who are new to the whole commuting/ urban experience

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  • Cyclists’ organisations unite against ‘stay back’ stickers1 year 5 weeks agogiff77 wrote:Yorkshie Whippet

    giff77 wrote:
    Yorkshie Whippet wrote:
    Looking at these a completely different way.

    Are these stickers the new "Baby/Princess/Tw*t on board"? I.e. dickhead warning, in which case bring them on. At least we have half a chance of backing off and away from dangerous driving. Can not really complain as I have a "Bloody Cyclist" jersey. Wonder if I can get away with "Fing Back Off !" on a jersey

    On a slightly different topic, way do some cyclist feel the need to move up traffic queues in places were there isn't a cycle lane? We are all road users and abide by the highway code aren't we?

    Don't need a sticker to let me know this. My perception of all motorists is that they're d***heads until they give me room or do not tailgate me. I now when negotiating a narrow section or traffic calming measure pull out to 4 drop my right hand and point to my rear wheel and wag my figure if a vehicle is behind. Once clear I drop back to 1and wave the driver behind through. I've found that in most cases I'm then given plenty of room apart from the occasional Beemer/Audi who are incensed that I've delayed them by approximately 2 seconds. It seems to me that I've made the driver aware that I'm aware of their presence and is my own version of Back Off

    Waving through anyone is a bad idea, you are opening a whole new can of worms which you do not want to do.