• Team Sky....Discuss1 year 4 weeks agos_lim wrote:Has Dombrowski

    s_lim wrote:
    Has Dombrowski had a look-in on anything this year? Or has he been shelved? Same for Kiryenka.

    And has there been any follow-up on Henao / JTL's suspensions...

    A snippet here on Kiryenka:

    http://www.teamsky.com/article/0,27290,30569_9285765,00.html

  • Forever Lock: the 'unpickable' bike lock + video1 year 4 weeks agoBike thieves don't pick

    Bike thieves don't pick locks, they physically break them. E.g. cutting through wire locks with a bolt-cutter, or using a bottle jack to burst open D-locks. Hell, even the frame of the *bicycle itself* can give enough leverage to break some D-locks in seconds, just by twisting the bicycle around.

    If picking the locks isn't how thieves steal bikes, then making a lock harder to pick won't have any effect on bike theft, obviously.

  • Forever Lock: the 'unpickable' bike lock + video1 year 4 weeks agobut what's it like when faced

    but what's it like when faced with a bottle jack?

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoNeilG83 wrote:When Team Sky

    NeilG83 wrote:
    When Team Sky were founded it I was hoping they would set new standards for racing cleanly and fairly, but it appears that ethically they are no different to most teams. Whilst not breaking any rules they disregard their riders health and it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    I agree, I took paracetamol for a headache at the weekend, and will be buying EPO later today. Liar

    Hang on, read the article again, this sounds like BS. The issue here isn't that Tramadol was used - it's a legit painkiller, to be prescribed only by a doc - of which the team has one (or more). The issue is that the doc says it was only used in 'clinically appropriate scenarios', while Barry says some riders took it before every race.

    Now, in one breath MB says that Tramadol is as performance-enhancing as anything else he's taken, and that some riders use it every race, and then in another breath says that Sky are racing clean. Well, which is it? Are riders taking it un-necessarily and gaining a performance advantage, or aren't they?

    Or, is it:
    1. Ex-rider has book to sell, slings dirt at avowedly 'clean' team - score one for book sales.
    2. Ex-rider doesn't want to be sued by the team, so then contradicts himself with non-inflammatory statement that team is clean
    3. The damage is done, because the headlines (which will lead to book sales) will focus on the former, not the latter (see top of this page for example)

    Otherwise, surely his scoop would be "I used Tramadol, it's really performance enhancing, loads of the guys are on it regularly, therefore the only conclusion I can reach is that the performances aren't clean"?!

  • Forever Lock: the 'unpickable' bike lock + video1 year 4 weeks agoIs having the lock picked

    Is having the lock picked really much of an issue?
    I'd have thought having it broken open somehow was the main worry.

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoChuck wrote:glynr36

    Chuck wrote:
    glynr36 wrote:
    Chuck wrote:
    NeilG83 wrote:
    it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    Really? It's only a small step from taking a legal drug that's not on a doping list to illegal ones that are?

    I don't really see the story here TBH.

    The misuse of a opiate based painkiller is the story.

    Yeah, if you assume 'use' and 'misuse' are the same thing.

    Really see where you are coming from Chuck.

    Another non story opportunity for a heap of speculation and accusation.

  • Team Sky....Discuss1 year 4 weeks agoThe only thing Dombrowski has

    The only thing Dombrowski has been in this year was the Coppi e Bartali

    Sky kinda dominated it, but it was only a four stage plus a TTT race.

    Swift won stage 1
    Sky won the TTT
    Kennaugh won stage 2
    Swift was 2nd in stage 3
    Cataldo won the ITT

    Kennaugh took overall and Swift took the points

    But then again, the only other pro level teams were Lampre and Cannondale.

  • FORUM'S SCORUM's MINI LEAGUE 2014(Spring Classics and Pre-Giro tours)1 year 4 weeks agoVUELTA PAIS

    VUELTA PAIS VASCO

    Stage1:Twybaydos,STEVESPRO 79,Jonas Lorenzen
    race leader:Twybaydos

    Stage2:Northstar,ray silvester,Chiv30
    race leader:Twybaydos

    Stage3:obutterwick,NeilG83,simon F
    race leader:Twybaydos

    Stage4:stevemarks,STEVESPRO79,Ghedebrav
    race leader:Twybaydos

    Stage5:Andynic,Joelsim,Chiv30
    race leader:Twybaydos

    Stage6:Joelsim,simon F,TERatcliffe

    Twy is going to be gutted about losing out on winning the event on the last stage to obutterwick who had a fantastic few days claimoing 3rd purist too......but should be pretty pleased with 2nd in standard and 1st in purist

    RACE RESULT(and FSUCI pts accrued for final placing)

    obutterwick 10pts
    Twybaydos 6pts
    Jonas Lorenzen 3pts
    drheaton 2pts
    simon F 1pt

    Purist Division(and FSUCI pts accrued for final placing)

    Twybaydos 5pts
    ray silvester 4pts
    obutterwick 3pts
    Andynic 2pts
    chrisdstripes 1pt

    GIRO DEL TRENTINO

    Stage1:naffets,simon F,Jonas Lorenzen
    race leader:naffets

    Stage2:cherrypicked(standard),cherrypicked(purist),Andynic
    race leader:Jonas Lorenzen

    Stage3:space cowboy,naffets,cherrypicked
    race leader:cherrypicked

    Stage4:simon F,Chiv30,stevemarks

    cherrypicked held on to win standard AND purist events....a real boost before the Giro D'Italia I'm sure

    RACE RESULT(plus FSUCI pts accrued for final position)

    cherrypicked 10pts
    naffets 6pts
    Jonas Lorenzen 3pts
    simon F 2pts
    space cowboy 1pt

    Purist Division(and FSUCI pts accrued for final placing)

    cherrypicked 5pts
    stevemarks 4pts
    johnny2names 3pts
    Jonas Lorenzen 2pts
    chrisdstripes 1pt

    FSUCI Rankings
    1)Wig_Billy 67
    2)cherrypicked 60
    3)Twybaydos 46
    4)naffets 42
    5)stevemarks 38
    6)TERatcliffe 36
    7)drheaton 32
    8)simon F 30
    9)chrisdstripes 29
    10)silas chime 26
    11)Julie Danson 25
    12)andynic 24
    13)ray silvester 23
    14)the domestique 20
    15)obutterwick 19
    16)Nata1ia 18
    =17)adholman,johnny2names,Jonas Lorenzen 17
    18)NeilG83 15
    19)ghedebrav 14
    20)chiv30 13
    21)backflipbedlam 11
    22)space cowboy 10
    =23)Didge2,STEVESPRO 9
    =25)happylemon,livestrongnick,LatteLycraLosers 8
    28)SounD_az 7
    =29)Mikeh 789,willskill,Joelsim 6
    =32)JAndrewHill,Dave Atkinson 5
    =34)KeejayOV 4
    =35)rcorbin,stumps,enrique,Georgeodio,Alan Tullett,sanderville,northstar 3
    =42)C4rolina,Nix,chokofingerz 2
    =45)debbieg,ojbutterwick,southstar,galibier86,cranky,Turbojoe,fluffchucker 1

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoHim Up North wrote:I'm sorry,

    Him Up North wrote:
    I'm sorry, where is the story here? Cycling team used a legal painkiller. Wow, scoop!

    Actual outcome: Barry sells a few extra copies of his kiss 'n' tell while providing grist to the hate mill for a team he gladly took a salary from for 2 years.

    *applauds ironically*

    +1.

    Barry retired in 2012 so this is surely old (or non) news. Alan Farrell, who supports a ban, didn't join Sky until mid way through that season, presumably after Leinders departed.

    The comment that Sky are clean because he didn't see anything is bollocks. We all know of riders who are clean but see zero evidence of teammates who are later banned for doping. Barry previously denied doping himself, I wouldn't believe a word he says.

    The article states: "While MPCC members are forbidden from giving their riders Tramadol, there is nothing to stop non-member teams such as Sky or Omega Pharma-Quick Step from doing so as current rules stand, although some might question whether it is in the spirit of the sport."

    The spirit of the sport? Don't make me laugh! It's dog-eat-dog.

  • Forever Lock: the 'unpickable' bike lock + video1 year 4 weeks ago"What do you think?" I think

    "What do you think?"

    I think the video author could get to the point a bit quicker Wink

    If any scrote did have a go at this, the risk is not that he'd open the lock, but he/she would render the lock inoperable.

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoHave Sky issued a statement

    Have Sky issued a statement yet?

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoChuck wrote:glynr36

    Chuck wrote:
    glynr36 wrote:
    Chuck wrote:
    NeilG83 wrote:
    it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    Really? It's only a small step from taking a legal drug that's not on a doping list to illegal ones that are?

    I don't really see the story here TBH.

    The misuse of a opiate based painkiller is the story.

    Yeah, if you assume 'use' and 'misuse' are the same thing.

    The way I see it, and from a few other articles I've read.
    Use = injured rider using them
    Misuse = uninjured rider using them either usually under the guise of a 'finishing bottle' to push on harder.
    It's not to dissimilar to the 'use' of cortisol for saddle sores.
    Take away the grey area, make riders and teams need to get a TUE for tramadol.

  • Chinese revolutions1 year 4 weeks agoThe next instalment will be

    The next instalment will be posted up this week!

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoDoes anyone know where i can

    Does anyone know where i can get some?
    Asking for a friend.

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoglynr36 wrote:Chuck

    glynr36 wrote:
    Chuck wrote:
    NeilG83 wrote:
    it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    Really? It's only a small step from taking a legal drug that's not on a doping list to illegal ones that are?

    I don't really see the story here TBH.

    The misuse of a opiate based painkiller is the story.

    Yeah, if you assume 'use' and 'misuse' are the same thing.

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoChuck wrote:NeilG83

    Chuck wrote:
    NeilG83 wrote:
    it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    Really? It's only a small step from taking a legal drug that's not on a doping list to illegal ones that are?

    I don't really see the story here TBH.

    The misuse of a opiate based painkiller is the story.

  • Switching to a road bike.1 year 4 weeks agoThe same question was asked

    The same question was asked the previous day.

    http://road.cc/content/forum/117436-new-road-bike-around-£1000-mark

  • Packing away the Winter kit1 year 4 weeks agoI'm not sure I'd consider

    I'm not sure I'd consider this recent mild winter to be an aberration - I'd be more inclined to think that the previous 2 or 3 were exceptionally cold, relative to the years before and after.

  • Riders banned from New Forest sportives for urinating in public1 year 4 weeks agoallez neg wrote:andyp

    allez neg wrote:
    andyp wrote:
    vanmildert won that, waaaaaay back up there...^ Wink

    Did he? All I could see from him was a reference to runners and golfers. Not ALL golfers are Nazis, surely. Cool

    Godwin's law was updated some time ago to include mentions of Th*tcher and golf.

  • Video: wrong-way rider meets jay-walker1 year 4 weeks agoThat Carrera kit ROCKED. Wash

    That Carrera kit ROCKED. Wash your mouth out.

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoNeilG83 wrote:it's only a

    NeilG83 wrote:
    it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

    Really? It's only a small step from taking a legal drug that's not on a doping list to illegal ones that are?

    I don't really see the story here TBH.

  • Winners Thread1 year 4 weeks agoI won a mini pump but it has

    I won a mini pump but it has yet to arrive....

  • Updated: Team Sky says its riders are not given painkiller Tramadol and it should be banned1 year 4 weeks agoWhen Team Sky were founded it

    When Team Sky were founded it I was hoping they would set new standards for racing cleanly and fairly, but it appears that ethically they are no different to most teams. Whilst not breaking any rules they disregard their riders health and it's only a small step from taking Tramadol to popping other illegal drugs.

  • Team Sky....Discuss1 year 4 weeks agoHas Dombrowski had a look-in

    Has Dombrowski had a look-in on anything this year? Or has he been shelved? Same for Kiryenka.

    And has there been any follow-up on Henao / JTL's suspensions...

  • Riders banned from New Forest sportives for urinating in public1 year 4 weeks agoI've often peed in the middle

    I've often peed in the middle of a ride, not a problem as long as you can find a quite spot behind a tree and you're not exposing yourself to anyone.
    How many times do you see young kids by the side of a stopped cars with their parents letting them have a pee.
    I would suspect that the people making the complaints are the same saboteurs that are throwing tacs all over the road.

    Get life and move on I say. At Wits End