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Its a ridiculous design - tons of extra material on the things that needs lifted into the air, and it looks like it'd be unstable in flight too.
What's more, things like this already exist, with more practical designs.
http://www.youtube.com/v/SIlWvlGxy3c&fs=1
The Aeryon Scout (intended for law enforcement) has a 20km range and can fly at up to 40 km/h, hover, transmit live video. It can also fly a pre-designated path via GPS - useful for following a race.
This isn't unique, but there's issues: most of the quadropters I've seen don't have bandwidth to transmit pictures you'd want to see on telly, you get HD after landing. There's a danger of them running out of juice and landing in a race. They're not fast enough to overtake the riders, and would struggle to land on a moving car; so they're not going to be deployed by follow cars as in the drone design any time soon.
well, I put the bit in about embroidery Mike cos it's so neat it does look like stitching, we weren't making any connection between the gender of the welders and the quality of the welds - you brought the sexism to the table. We mentioned the fact that such a high proportion of their welders are women because it's interesting. If it makes you feel any better Spin said that their very best welder was a man.
In fact, women make up a significant part of the workforce in the bicycle industry in Asia, but mostly I had thought in the area of carbon production – where, like it or not, their work is generally felt to be superior to men's when it comes to attention to detail. I don't know if they are cheaper too, but back in the day when Taiwan produced more high end welded frames than carbon the welders tended to be men.
It was a great ride, good company, brilliant riding country and the weather behaved itself too. Ed was a real gent if a bit of a show off
Thanks to everyone involved for the opportunity.
Pooh, I'm a 2XL in Giordana.
For anyone who hasn't tried Giordana that's a bargain.
Even at full price I reckon they more than hold their own against the likes of Assos and Castelli.
Still at the victim blaming stage I see, address the "motorist" being at "war" with cyclists then you may get somewhere...
To broaden the argument:
The real issue is reaction time - or lack of it when motorists travel at speeds inappropriate for the conditions. This factor alone governs many of the mistakes that lead to accidents.
In my perfect fascist state I would introduce a speed limit of 20mph in urban and suburban areas and a 50mph limit on B roads. No one needs to travel at 60mph on a road that could contain horses, walkers and cyclists. I'd also have a compulsory one day a month cycle trip for everyone with a driving licence who can get on a bike. That way we'd all understand that the road is there to be shared.
To risk sounding 'holier than thou'. The bike was here first and it will be here long after cars become electric and are speed restricted for the safety of all. Whether that day will come in my life time I'm not sure; but the present standoff between motorists who want to ride bikes as well and expect to share the road - and motorists who don't ride bikes and don't want to share anything will have to come to an end.
Red lights are a constant irrelevant point in the argument. 'Running' a light that has turned from green to red is for idiots and they deserve what they get. Jumoping an red light is different. I see plenty of motorists who will run a red light on a pelican crossing if no one is crossing. That is wrong. When on foot I don't wave thanks at zebra crossings - as once you start thanking people for obeying the highway code they start to assume they have a choice!
However, 10 years of commuting by bike in London taught me that when you filter to the front of a line of fuming motorists and see a bottle neck across the junction you use your position to check the crosslights and when they turn to amber before your lights turn to green you go - otherwise you will be boxed in by the first two cars alongside you - desperate to show that they can still beat a cyclist.
So can we please stop talking about red lights and high vis and concentrate on the real lifesaver - a reduction in speed limits. It'll save a little fuel and extend the life of your brake pads as well.
"All of Lance's samples were 100 percent clean when they were first given and tested," - Meaning Lance only used what was undetectable at the time. Didn't a frozen sample fail after an EPO test had been developed? Yes, yes it did.
TLA- Three letter ACRONYM
meh
Which metal are the one piece cassettes made from?
I use the MapMyTracks app, which is free, to record my rides, and then post them to the website (www.mapmytracks.com/)to save them.
The app is nice and easy to use. It can record distance, elevation, speed, pace, calories. You can share on Twitter and Facebook.
I thought I was reading the Daily Mail circa 1950: "Interestingly, three quarters of their welders are women. The welds are so neat in some places that they look more like embroidery ..." what a load of sexist drivel - really disappointing. The gender of the welders is irrelevant - women in China (or anywhere else don't have a monopoly on emroidery either).
Another great report, nice work Trev! Thanks for coming along, glad you enjoyed it
Hope to see you there again next week.
Now sold.
sounds good. first one was good fun - will have to catch next week's. props to liam.
I don't think it's a holier than thou response particularly. It's important for everyone that surveys are as impartial as possible without "leading" questions and there's no differential in the above questions between cyclist and motorist.
For example: Cyclist or motorist failing to judge another road user's path or speed. Split it out and actually differentiate to get a meaningful answer, that just answers the question with "well someone involved didn't judge speed/direction".
A step in the right direction, getting people to think about safety but not the best designed survey in the world.
Just ordered. For European readers, mine came to €21.
Posted link to FB and Twitter to help raise awareness.
Is no-one allowed to criticise a crap survey which informs local government actions? Are the cycling press not allowed to comment on something where some idiot let loose on Surveymonkey can affect Council policy and road safety? Are cyclists not supposed to be aware of these things and just do as the Men In Suits tell us?
We've had enough of that kind of authoritarian tripe, thank you. Perhaps you should go and live in a Middle Eastern dictatorship, I'm sure you'd prefer that instead of democracy and an educated population.
PJ - feel free to ask away, click on my name below comment and you can email me. Tend to head West rather than East from here so don't know Banbury area too well. Definitely recommend the Old Mill Cafe in Chipping Norton, very popular with cyclists and used as a checkpoint on audax rides. Nice cakes too
Hmm… well I get irritated by the holier than thou attitude of some cyclists mysel - red light jumpers in particular, but I don't thin this we're taking a holier than thou response here. We're simply pointing out that an organisation that exists to promote road safety in Nottingham has put together a pretty ropey survey with the aim of helping it push the flawed argument that wearing a helmet will make you safer on the roads - it will perhaps if you fall off at low speed, but it won't if you are in collision with a car or are doing more than 12mph on point of impact.
Better driving standards is the single biggest way of making cyclist safer, and better cycle training, and more responsible cycling will undoubtedly help too. Running red lights and riding while drunk are pretty stupid, but even the former (and I can feel the red mist descending) only puts the fool doing it at risk - except of course for those people who run red lights at pelican crossings which is even less acceptable in my book.
My worry about things like this survey is that what underlies it is an attitude that at least subconsiously thinks that cycling is not a particulary rational mode of transport, but if you insist on doing it on a public road then you'd better whack some expanded polystyerene on your head and dress like a belisha beacon otherise it's gonna be your fault if I hit you with my car. That's why I'd say it's worth drawing attention to these things.
We're certainly not trying to undermine the good work road safety partnerships are doing and we certainly don't think that all cyclists are perfect and that in any incident or conflict the cyclists are always right there are plenty of idiot cyclists out there too, but on balance idiots on bikes do less harm (even to themselves) than idtiots in cars. That's not to excuse them for being dumb or selfish though.
Simon - so you're in Chipping Norton? If so - I start work in Banbury this autumn, must remember to ask you for the insider knowledge of the area. Cafe stops, pubs with good food, that sort of thing.
+1 for disliking soft doughy-faced people who don't understand bicycles.
My family live in David Cameron's constituency, so I know what it's like.
Dear a.jumper, you might want to read the article again. I think the idea is that Sustrans are using their own route data, laid over the OS background. I imagine that Sustrans have a pretty good idea of where their routes go as you can see here: http://www.sustrans.org.uk/map?searchKey=bristol&searchType=search&Searc...
OS maps have a lot of detail in the more rural areas of the country that OSM doesn't yet show.
OSM is obviously a brilliant thing and something that I think Sustrans has supported in the past, but it's not yet finished and to argue that everyone else should stop doing things until it is is ridiculous.
ordered. came to about £18.75 I think.
"SKY SKY SKY" all over your kit anyone? I thought they were supposed to be Team GB, not Team SKY. (Oh, wait, right...)
And to dig up an old chestnut - anyone else find it a bit odd, people riding in national kit (other than actual national team members, of course)?
I was never in favour of the Stolen Valor Act, I'm all for free speech and freedom of expression, but that kit would invite all sorts of questions with embarrassing answers.
"How do you fancy your chances against that Chris Hoy bloke, then?", that sort of thing.
Or am I flattering myself / us, to think that people might actually mistake a road.cc member for one of the team?
I would be pretty surprised if OSM isn't better than OS on average. If you can't see there's a route to get to, you're hardly going to use it either!
I can't speak for Aberdeenshire, but looking around Sustrans's home in the Bristol area, OS shows routes 3 and 41, but is missing large parts of the 33 and 334 once you get out into the rural area beyond Long Ashton. OS shows what I think is an old route for some of the 4 in the city and doesn't show the regional routes or recent additions like the 254 at all. They all appear to be on OSM.
Also, you can help to complete OSM just by switching on the tracking feature in software like Mobile Trail Explorer and uploading your journeys. Maybe some kind person in Aberdeenshire could do that?