- Daley Thompson: Cycling should be banned from the Olympics in the light of Armstrong doping scandal1 year 20 weeks agoDT performances were
DT performances were consistent and not erratic. There is no big drug culture in London amongst athletes, it is down to good coaches and a lot of hard work. When I was 7 at Sharks swimming club it was a 100 lengths of the swimming pool every night and you could not finish until you beat your time. Sharon Davies was there and what a swimmer. The girl was like teflon and put in twice the amount of work. Only reason I gave up was I had no goggles and blinded by the clorine. I could not even walk home I was blind(Thank you mummy for picking me up). Boxing is also not big into drugs. Another sport a lot of hard work. Cycling should be no different. It is a fantastic sport. First few kilometres chill the legs and wind up gradually. No big rush. By the end of the run you are chasing coaches and cursing the Council for not repairing roads as you hit 80 kmph.I may not win the lottery but I feel like a million dollars. Cars are impressed because you keeping up. It is a fun sport and I love it as a grass roots member. I want to see the pro tour and see cycling in the Olympics. To see Sparticus fall 4 km out at the Olympics was epic. We need our heroes and to cheer them on. I just do not want to see them all taking drugs. Is that really so hard to ask?
- Daley Thompson: Cycling should be banned from the Olympics in the light of Armstrong doping scandal1 year 20 weeks agoI think the Daily Mail should
I think the Daily Mail should be banned.
- SRAM drops Lance Armstrong, but Oakley stand by their man… for now1 year 20 weeks agoUp until I read the 200 Page
Up until I read the 200 Page summary of the 1000 page document sent to the UCI I was convinced the USADA and the Press were on a witch-hunt. I still didn't take the presses including roadcc word for it until I’d read the 200 page document myself.
However no one at roadcc has yet answered this question can the USADA strip anyone of a foreign title or does that have to be the UCI, WADA or the TdF Organisers?
- "This is no life!" Johny Schleck advises sons Fränk and Andy to quit cycling1 year 20 weeks agoI will join Side burns and
I will join Side burns and sign up. I can see my check list in the morning. Spare tyre check, computers check, drinks check, EpO check, steroid sore ass cream..check. Why on earth would you need a diuretic in cycling when you go through like 2 litres of fluids on a long run. This sounds very suspect to me.
- Daley Thompson: Cycling should be banned from the Olympics in the light of Armstrong doping scandal1 year 20 weeks agoTheBigMong wrote:You can'tTheBigMong wrote:
You can't attack a "sport" because of people that use drugs within that sport. The fact that the UCI and many national so-called anti-doping agencies have failed to do much to curb illicit drug use within the UCI-sanctioned races over the past 20 years actually shouldn't have ANY bearing on the Olympics whatsoever. The IOC is perfectly capable of imposing their own system to combat drug usage, and they should be able to weed out users if that is really their goal.
It seems to me that as of late, Olympic competition is just a periodic selection of the top professional athletes, nothing more. There was a time when professional sport wasn't so lucrative, and professionals weren't even allowed in the Olympics. Now the floodgates have been opened and half of the events seem to have a "Dream Team" of millionaire athletes from one of the big Western countries. Well, at that point you are pretty much stuck with accepting whatever level of doping or other unsportsmanlike conduct is allowed in that professional sport, UNLESS you step up to the plate and put stricter controls in place on your own. But, much like the UCI, the IOC is primarily interested in viewership (money). And they have decided the best way to get the most money is to have the big names there, regardless of whether they are competing on a level playing field. It's a short sighted goal but one that ensures the folks running the show right now get the most out of it, at the expense of generations to come.
To single out cycling simply because they have actually cracked down on a rampant problem is ridiculous. Even if the cycle continues and clandestine doping programs start to develop again, the fallout from the USADA/Armstrong case and the Ferrari case will wipe out enough doping teams and individuals that it would take a hell of a lot longer than 4 years for anything on this scale to be in place again. So the 2016 Olympics could very well be the cleanest group of cyclists to compete since the 1980s. What a stupid time to pull it from the table.
A lot of your points make coherent sense but you have no end game and we desperately need one. I am indifferent to you in your debate because you draw no conclusions. There has to be a resolution at some point. UCI may appear powerful for now but it is you and I, the whole cycling fraternity and beyond that makes the ultimate decision. We live in a democracy and these people simply elected representatives. Right here and right now, we the people voice our opinion and make the changes.It is not UCI anymore as they have no credibility, it is us. And like Dylan Thomas not Daley , 'we do not go gentle into that good night'
- Daley Thompson: Cycling should be banned from the Olympics in the light of Armstrong doping scandal1 year 20 weeks agoI understand where you are
I understand where you are coming but I do not agree on prolific testing. However, it would be hard to fault the system employed by London Olympic commitee whatever that may have been. If the great Senator of Wisconsin was to suggest any changes then might I suggest adopting protocols similar to immigration and sanction the host teams. To the team management, we would say, if a member tests positive, you will also bear the grunt of appropriate sanctions and we will check out your financials as to how much grunt you bear. We could implement these procedure through UCI (No Verbruggen or McQuaid thank you) allow them a 10 % commission and send on the money to WADA. It is a more balanced approach. The more they cheat ,the more money WADA gets and the less they cheat, the less we need such rigorous testing protocols. There has to be some sort of balance my friend. No one and I mean no one condones draconian action.
I appreciate and agree with you that some performance drugs have a short memory span. As long as they are prevalent on the day and we catch the outstanding performances, we will be fine. We can also test on and off the field of play.
I will accept that USADA had an uphill battle proving their case and lord knows, the Justice department were of no help. They have sufficient powers as a body. I think they have enough to do the job and obviously shown do it well. We do not need more legislation, we simply need to implement the existing one.
- FS: Northwave Replacement Ratchets and Strap1 year 20 weeks agoGraham, I wrote you an email.
Graham, I wrote you an email. Have you received it?
- New Forest sportive riders slammed by motorists for not riding single file1 year 20 weeks agoI have seen stampedes of
I have seen stampedes of ponies during the New Forest Ma rathon- another event unpopular with the commoners, and my son left a 2meter line of rubber in the road when a new forest pony jumped out at him on the Orchid Ride. The donkeys and ponies look half dead (and probably are) but you need to give them leeway and hard to see how 30+ club riders can do that in a group, not to mention coping with the cattle grids. Will be doing charity rides and the Round the Isle of Wight Randonee next year, not mixing it with lookalike TdF riders who pick the Forest because they can't do hills. Was nearly wiped out by a car in the forest yesterday- so not a fuddy duddy!
- Fantasy Palmares 20121 year 20 weeks agoWould like the Palmares to
Would like the Palmares to include 2011 (actually won a stage of the Giro then) and even my 2010 results from the Vuelta (no idea how I went), but Dave has said no. boo hoo!
- "This is no life!" Johny Schleck advises sons Fränk and Andy to quit cycling1 year 20 weeks agoWhat do you mean no one left
What do you mean no one left Gkam? I will sign up how hard can it be?
- Daley Thompson: Cycling should be banned from the Olympics in the light of Armstrong doping scandal1 year 20 weeks agoUp until recently the basis
Up until recently the basis of the case against Lance was that he beat the dopers so he must be a doper If Daley Thompson beat the East Germans who were legendary for their doping
- Tax Dodging......Wiggo1 year 20 weeks agoI think Millar admits he had
I think Millar admits he had an "efficient" structure when he was at the height of his pre-confession career. A holding company in Luxembourg I think. The short answer is, all is fair in love and war vs HMRC.
- Pearson HammerAndTongs1 year 20 weeks agoWho actually makes the
Who actually makes the frames?
- New Forest sportive riders slammed by motorists for not riding single file1 year 20 weeks agopea brained motorists in
pea brained motorists in thinking they own every road shocker, got news for you, you don't.
- Tax Dodging......Wiggo1 year 20 weeks agoIm sure Bradley (who rides a
Im sure Bradley (who rides a bike for a living and therefore fair to say he hasnt got a MBA) didnt think this up himself.
Im sure he has 'people' who sort his money out for him and this is just one of the many loopholes these people exploit.
Tax avoiders are scum of the earth and Im sure most British pro cyclists avoid taxes by living on the continent.
If this was done without his knowledge then he should do the right thing and knock it on the head. If he knew about it then he is scum.
- Phil Liggett: "They all seemed to have been cheating"1 year 20 weeks agoWe are not wearing perfuntory
We are not wearing perfuntory jewelery/ Lets all draw our swords and off witht their heads
- New Forest sportive riders slammed by motorists for not riding single file1 year 20 weeks agonbrus wrote:... imaginenbrus wrote:
... imagine coming round a bend, at a legal speed, only to be confronted by a [tractor] taking up the full width of the lane ...
Drive/ride appropriate to the conditions and consider all road users.
One can dream...
- Phil Liggett: "They all seemed to have been cheating"1 year 20 weeks agoMax_headset wrote:Phil it'sMax_headset wrote:
Phil it's time you hung up the mike. Your comments this year including those about the merits of BMX in the Olympics on twitter and your defence then neutrality on Lance's woes make the average farmyard sheep dog a more likely cyclists friend than yourself. Your worsening waffle, even be it you did once have a great canal holiday in Norfolk, no longer interests us on the terrestial Tour coverage, I now often have to watch the itv4 show with the sound off to avoid your prattle and possibly have a live internet stream from a french channel to provide audio relief. There has to be a time when you and dear Huw realise its time to take up gardening / fishing/ charity work and remove the risk of the trueman showesque experience of watching the two of you age any further and die on air.
I second Mercury all those in favour say Aye.
- Phil Liggett: "They all seemed to have been cheating"1 year 20 weeks agoSorry MercuryOne, I just
Sorry MercuryOne, I just don't buy it. Liggett's forty years of constant denial that there was any orchestrated doping is one of the reasons pro cycling finds itself in this current mess.
- London and Bristol host first 'Love Cycling, Go Dutch' conferences1 year 20 weeks agowow so boring. I want to kill
wow so boring. I want to kill muyself.
- Phil Liggett: "They all seemed to have been cheating"1 year 20 weeks agoYou utter chump Phil now get
You utter chump Phil now get out of doing anything with cycling
- Cervo Rosso Strada CX long sleeve jersey1 year 20 weeks agoCX in a wool jersey is sooo
CX in a wool jersey is sooo wrong…
What a total lack of originality it looks like a poor relation of a Rapha/Shutt marriage…
- London and Bristol host first 'Love Cycling, Go Dutch' conferences1 year 20 weeks agoI thought the point from TfL,
I thought the point from TfL, that things move slowly, was enlightening. The Transport Minister spoke well and has been in his job 2 1/2 years, a record for the post apparently.
The discussions with other attendees over lunch were illuminating. Some people have some good ideas. Some councils are doing good work. I'm not sure how much of the Dutch experience can be transferred to the UK, and perhaps we have to find out own way.
The breakout sessions were interesting too, although one on safety was interrupted by a crazed Italian who wanted to make his point that red light running isn't a safety issue.
- New Forest sportive riders slammed by motorists for not riding single file1 year 20 weeks ago@Stewie:
Lets look at the
Lets look at the reality of the situation...
As a car driver if you come around a corner and find a pair of cyclists in front of you with oncoming traffic you will panic and if you aren't paying attention you could end up ploughing into those cyclist as there will be nowhere for you to go. Yes, you may very well be at fault, but this won't affect what may happen to those cyclists. Humans make errors.
When it comes to overtaking, it is possible to slow right down to similar speed as a single file cyclist and carefully move past with much less space than normally required when travelling at speed. You cannot attempt such a manoeuvre when cyclists are two abreast, so traffic will build up behind them. Most cars that overtake me when I'm cycling don't move fully over to the other lane ... how much room they give me is directly proportional to their speed. In the Tour-de-France, cyclists often ride up alongside support vehicles to top up on their hydration. This is pretty safe to do as they are going at the same speed with no sudden movement.
If you are caught in the opposite lane overtaking a pack of cyclists, where do you go? You're stuck and have to hope that the oncoming traffic can brake before hitting you. If cyclists are in single file, then you can slow down to their speed and move across to the same lane as far as reasonable without causing an accident, hopefully leaving enough room for oncoming traffic to squeeze past. Yes this would be poor judgement when choosing a safe place to overtake, but the reality is that this happens. Humans make mistakes. Cyclists need to account for this when out on the roads.
Cycling two abreast exposes the cyclist to greater risk as well as making it more likely that other road users will take risks in order to get past. This will make accidents more likely ... that's the reality, regardless of whom is to blame. If I was forced to cycle two abreast I'd make sure I was on the inside.
- Rapha Pro Team Cross Jersey1 year 20 weeks agopj wrote:
In fact, i noticepj wrote:
In fact, i notice that 'serious' riders in general seem to be beskinsuited at every and any occasion.
Also, consult velominati rule #18