• TOB Stage 2 - Flat?1 year 5 weeks agolivestrongnick wrote:gees

    livestrongnick wrote:
    gees like getting blood out of a stone getting the full results! Angry

    Yeah, they're taking hours! Got used to seeing the Vuelta results up in 20 minutes... I'm itching to see the game results but the site is still updating... It seems like it's taking a long time today...

  • Cervélo R3 updated for 2014 + video1 year 5 weeks agoMe like...

    Me like... Drooling

  • Time trial and triathlon bike 2014 round-up1 year 5 weeks agoGlad to see things moving On

    Glad to see things moving On from the UCI dogma.

    Any if those bikes would be the business. If only I had the money... And the time... And the roads... And...

  • Cervélo R3 updated for 2014 + video1 year 5 weeks agotombourne wrote:Unless that

    tombourne wrote:
    Unless that is a misprint. £1000 jump to Ultegra versions seems a lot

    It's not a misprint. It's been advertised for a while. Scarily good price. Just wish I had £2k to hand.

  • Bikes faster than public transport for most London journeys under 8 miles1 year 5 weeks agoI've found that except for a

    I've found that except for a few really direct tube routes, it's faster for me by bike up to about 14 miles away. Oh yeah, and free, healthy and fun Wink

  • TOB Stage 2 - Flat?1 year 5 weeks agoNot having Ciolek 2 days

    Not having Ciolek 2 days running has ruined me! Gutted as had him initially but binned him to make space for a bunch of tossers like haussler and Visconti for today Smile
    More fiddling required for tomorrow one feels

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agowifwaf wrote: How do I know

    wifwaf wrote:

    How do I know he has done nothing wrong? I don't. Is that a basis for calling someone a cheat? Gut-feeling doesn't entitle me or anyone else to proclaim his guilt when all we actually know is that he informed USADA in advance of his whereabouts as required, he didn't miss a test, USADA didn't pass his new address details to the testers, and so the testers went to the wrong place.

    I am not in this thread to proclaim Horner is clean. My point is simple - posters here are talking as if this report is proof positive that he has cheated. This is poor speculation and flies in the face of the numerous tests he has already undertaken all the way through the Vuelta, which have evidently not proved positive.

    I am not a Horner apologist, but I really detest this kind of forum witch-hunt from every armchair expert who can raise a fat finger to the keyboard without having any real evidence other than rumour and deja-vu.

    I detest the head in the sand, see no evil, hear no evil, speak no evil apologists that allow this sort of thing to go on unquestioningly. That's what happened with Armstrong, and that's what is happening here.

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agoRelax, folks. Re. Horner's

    Relax, folks.

    Re. Horner's performance - without any hard evidence there's no definitive answer. Let's agree to disagree and respect each others' opinions. I'm sure we can discuss it without descending in to personal insults. Please?

    The news of the missed test, even there was not a mix-up as stated, should not have been made public anyway.

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agodaddyELVIS wrote:wifwaf

    daddyELVIS wrote:
    wifwaf wrote:
    You sir are a troll. Get back under your bridge.

    Why is someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll'? A bit childish Silly

    I believe that Colins' statements are typical of the forum troll. Not because he differs in opinion to me, but because he makes what seem to me to be definitive statements about Chris Horners honesty without a sound basis. I am not name-calling, I am expressing my opinion of his argument. It is an unfortunate side-effect of internet freedom of expression that people can cast aspersions on others with little or no evidence to a large audience with impunity. I don't think it is fair and I don't apologise for arguing the case.

    I repeat that I am not a Horner groupie, but I expect a little more intelligence and substance in the debate, even in the post LA wasteland...

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agophazon wrote:wifwaf

    phazon wrote:
    wifwaf wrote:
    Some of the above comments make me sick. People are so quick to condemn. If you actually look at what has happened here, Horner has done nothing wrong. Whatever other reasons people have for suspecting something is amiss, jumping to conclusions about Horner because the testers cant follow the information he gave them is downright unfair.

    And please, don't make excuses like 'they don't work Sundays so wouldn't see the email'...for goodness sake, if they are serious about making out of competition tests, they must check the database before testing someone.

    There is gullibility in believing someone must be innocent in the face of incriminating evidence, but its equally credulous to jump to an assumption of guilt when there is no reason to do so.

    So quick to condemn? Have you been following cycling for the past few years? How do you know Horner has done nothing wrong? Don't you think there is every reason to be suspicious here? Chris Froome took both barrels during the Tour, and he is someone whose numbers have been rock-solid for years and shown by all sensible measures a natural progression. Here on the other hand, is a guy who has suddenly out performed some of the best in the world, in the toughest GT out there, smiling his way up ridiculous climbs day after day, in a style he has never come near showing before.

    Even without this missed-test story, the situation stinks - I hope he is clean, but the only way we can have any idea if he is tested and tested and tested. Stories coming out the day after his win that he's missed a test do not help with that at all.

    How do I know he has done nothing wrong? I don't. Is that a basis for calling someone a cheat? Gut-feeling doesn't entitle me or anyone else to proclaim his guilt when all we actually know is that he informed USADA in advance of his whereabouts as required, he didn't miss a test, USADA didn't pass his new address details to the testers, and so the testers went to the wrong place.

    I am not in this thread to proclaim Horner is clean. My point is simple - posters here are talking as if this report is proof positive that he has cheated. This is poor speculation and flies in the face of the numerous tests he has already undertaken all the way through the Vuelta, which have evidently not proved positive.

    I am not a Horner apologist, but I really detest this kind of forum witch-hunt from every armchair expert who can raise a fat finger to the keyboard without having any real evidence other than rumour and deja-vu.

  • Bikes faster than public transport for most London journeys under 8 miles1 year 5 weeks agoKings Cross to Hangar Lane is

    Kings Cross to Hangar Lane is quicker by bike for me. Even on a Brompton

  • Spin Cycle Magazine - 9 Months in1 year 5 weeks agoI have been very impressed

    I have been very impressed with Spin so far. It's one of the very few cycling-related publications I would be willing to pay for. It seems Dan has been a little coy and not added a link so I'll do it for him: http://www.spincyclemag.com/

  • World tt championships1 year 5 weeks agoWhat about fabian

    What about fabian

  • World tt championships1 year 5 weeks agoI wouldn't like to call it

    I wouldn't like to call it but Brad said he knows the course (it's in his back yard). I reckon Dowsett won't be far behind either.

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agopwake wrote: What are YOU

    pwake wrote:

    What are YOU on?
    Not a known climber? Top ten TDF finisher; Tour of Basque Country winner; Tour of California winner; in terms of victories THE most successful American rider of the last twenty years.
    It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about...
    Of course, it obvious he MUST have been on some new wonder drug (available only to Americans) that didn't show a positive for three weeks of racing, but has the unfortunate side effect of being detected as soon as the race finishes.

    Pan e Aqua.

    He's done nothing in a GT of any note. You'd find most people would struggle to recognise him from ADAM. You seem to wipe the slate of his historical associations clean because it's easier to close your eyes and imagine that everything has magically come clean post-LA, and that something as improbable as Horner suddenly being a real GC contender is a feasible reality at 42. Don't you think that it is strange given that he's never come close to doing what Froome did for Wiggins? Or even Uran in entirety of his 'successful career'?

    I don't for a minute think he has a magic drug - in fact I think he's probably using many of the same ones LA used (but possibly in a different cocktail). Do you have any idea how hard it is for the anti-doping agencies to catch riders? Did the last twenty years happen for you? None of the big doping cases came from positives - Balco, Armstrong, Festina, the Austrian Cross-Country team, Dr Fuentes

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/athletics/23605334
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/23911979

    You seem to think that the testing procedures are effective, but if that was the case you would think they would of caught Armstrong the unreformed cheat in 2009 and 2010. Instead he got an exemption, and was able to work perfectly undetected in the system.

    Horner missing his test is just a part of the big lie that the peloton runs 'cleaner than ever'. As mentioned above the old 'switcheroo' on the whereabouts is as classic as Armstrong sprinting up the Hautacam.

    If you've received any emails suggesting that you've won the lottery, I'll let you in on a secret, you haven't and those guys you gave your account details are fleecing you right now....

  • World tt championships1 year 5 weeks agoTony Martin, surely. If

    Tony Martin, surely.

    If Wiggins' reported weight gain is correct then it must be impossible for him to win Laughing

  • Time trial and triathlon bike 2014 round-up1 year 5 weeks agoI would be happy to be the

    I would be happy to be the proud owner of anyone of those nice TT bikes

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agowifwaf wrote:You sir are a

    wifwaf wrote:
    You sir are a troll. Get back under your bridge.

    Why is someone with a different opinion to you a 'troll'? A bit childish Silly

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agoUSADA statement The U.S.

    USADA statement

    The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency announced on Monday afternoon that American Chris Horner had updated his whereabouts correctly, and that a missed drug test following his Vuelta a España win was due to a timing issue between the U.S. and Spain. It will not count as a missed test, and Horner is not accused of any wrongdoing.

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agowifwaf wrote:Some of the

    wifwaf wrote:
    Some of the above comments make me sick. People are so quick to condemn. If you actually look at what has happened here, Horner has done nothing wrong. Whatever other reasons people have for suspecting something is amiss, jumping to conclusions about Horner because the testers cant follow the information he gave them is downright unfair.

    And please, don't make excuses like 'they don't work Sundays so wouldn't see the email'...for goodness sake, if they are serious about making out of competition tests, they must check the database before testing someone.

    There is gullibility in believing someone must be innocent in the face of incriminating evidence, but its equally credulous to jump to an assumption of guilt when there is no reason to do so.

    So quick to condemn? Have you been following cycling for the past few years? How do you know Horner has done nothing wrong? Don't you think there is every reason to be suspicious here? Chris Froome took both barrels during the Tour, and he is someone whose numbers have been rock-solid for years and shown by all sensible measures a natural progression. Here on the other hand, is a guy who has suddenly out performed some of the best in the world, in the toughest GT out there, smiling his way up ridiculous climbs day after day, in a style he has never come near showing before.

    Even without this missed-test story, the situation stinks - I hope he is clean, but the only way we can have any idea if he is tested and tested and tested. Stories coming out the day after his win that he's missed a test do not help with that at all.

  • Tour of Britain rider Blog1 year 5 weeks agoGood riding from him today -

    Good riding from him today - KoM on honister Applause

  • Time trial and triathlon bike 2014 round-up1 year 5 weeks ago<3 that Canyon....

    <3 that Canyon....

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agoif the ADAMS procedure allows

    if the ADAMS procedure allows the athlete to change their window at relatively short notice, then part of the procedure should include the testers doing an up to date check of location and time after the permitted change window closes/before knocking on the door. Otherwise they may look stupid. If they don't and thus fuck up, they shouldn't then be running to the press.
    I maintain healthy scepticism, but this looks like the adminstrators fucked up, not some attempt at subterfuge.

  • Vuelta - pick three Spaniards1 year 5 weeks agoLast! hmm good work. I must

    Last! hmm good work. I must really know my Spanish riders!

    Those Basques are useless eh!

    Surprise

  • Testers unable to find Chris Horner for out-of-competition doping test; team says they were in wrong hotel1 year 5 weeks agoColin Peyresourde

    Colin Peyresourde wrote:
    wifwaf wrote:
    You can be damn sure if he hadn't followed protocol his team wouldn't be advertising the fact while asking for compensation. Its worth noting this isn't a failed test, its a failure to test. I am not protesting his innocence, my point is that we shouldn't be so quick to condemn a rider just because we have been fooled before.

    Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

    I never liked LA, and smell the same whiff now. The race times someone posted from the climb he made in 16:99, a half a minute quicker than any previous rider, in any previous tour was pretty much a nail in the coffin.

    The team are hiding behind protocol, but they didn't do anything to help locate him. The conspiracy of silence is deafening. I'm kicking up sh!t here, because if you let this stuff slide then we go back to the bad old days - personally I don't think we've left them.

    And I know when I'm being lied to and there are big holes in this. Although I would like to hear something from USADA. No one has adequately explained why a man past his prime has out raced better cyclists than himself, nor why he's hit such a rich vein of form in a 3 week competition. Things that age affects:
    Power
    Recovery
    Like Miller writes in his book, you can win a stage, but not a GT - but even the manner of his victories is staggeringly unbelievable - for someone who wasn't a known climber he pasted his opposition on....climbs.

    What are YOU on?
    Not a known climber? Top ten TDF finisher; Tour of Basque Country winner; Tour of California winner; in terms of victories THE most successful American rider of the last twenty years.
    It's almost like you don't know what you're talking about...
    Of course, it obvious he MUST have been on some new wonder drug (available only to Americans) that didn't show a positive for three weeks of racing, but has the unfortunate side effect of being detected as soon as the race finishes.