• Tour de France Stage 15 reaction after Bastille Day fireworks on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agobikeboy76 wrote:Yep, Chris

    bikeboy76 wrote:
    Yep, Chris was spinning and chatting to Ned like he was having an evening turbo session in front of Grand Designs.

    I don't watch ITV; was that before or after he had the oxygen mask put on him? Serious question.

  • Tour de France Stage 15 reaction after Bastille Day fireworks on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agostumps wrote:Good quote from

    stumps wrote:
    Good quote from Quintana;

    "I'm absolutely exhausted.I can see Chris Froome on the trainer now but I can only think about rest."

    These are the marginal gains which win you grand tours and the commitment needed to win.

    This is what 'absolutely exhausted' looks like.

    I don't think Quintana is lacking commitment.

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agotherealsmallboy wrote: In

    therealsmallboy wrote:

    In terms of hill-climbing, a lot of good amateur men will beat even the fastest pro women up a col.

    Are you sure about that? Morgan Arritola, the fastest Woman in last year's ascent of Mont Ventoux, finished 10th overall out of 308, 258 of whom were Men. And she was a Skier.

    If Marianne Vos thinks she can ride the TdF (without, as some have suggested, immediately falling off the back), I say let her. She knows a damn site more about road racing than most of us.

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agoGreat suggestions in this

    Great suggestions in this comment thread to incorporate women's field into the Tour de France (and other events). I'd like to see the men and women race the same day, it wouldn't cost that much extra to run on top of the initial setup and would be exciting to see the two more connected. I assume there are some commercial issues to contend with but over time with more women cycling the number of women fans will grow.

  • Tour de France Stage 15 reaction after Bastille Day fireworks on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoYep, Chris was spinning and

    Yep, Chris was spinning and chatting to Ned like he was having an evening turbo session in front of Grand Designs.

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agodrfabulous0 wrote:Not KOM

    drfabulous0 wrote:
    Not KOM wrote:

    Did you ever consider that the reason many women are not involved in sport is because they don't ever see other women involved in sport? Because it's a gender stereotype that a lot of women should remain pretty at all times, not push themselves or do anything that makes them ugly? Or that, competition by it's very nature, is discouraged amongst young women because it's 'unlady-like'? And to compete is to be associate with 'manliness' which actually isn't something our culture values in socially acceptable young woman?

    That entire paragraph is utter bollocks. My wife's obsession with her appearance is what motivates her to get out of bed early in the morning and go ride her mountain bike in the pissing rain. You have oversimplified the whole situation to a ridiculous degree.

    Nice response there. Notice I used the quantifier 'most' and not 'all'. You're a lucky man to be married to an active out-going lady. But the studies they've done on activity indicate that that women get less physical activity than men. The reason for this is cultural.

    http://www.sustrans.org.uk/policy-evidence/related-academic-research/phy...

    The reference here is a sustrans article, indicating that 40% and 22% of women do the recommended physical activity each week. Therefore 'most' women do not. It supports what I said - with evidence.

    http://www.noo.org.uk/uploads/doc/vid_11171_Attitudes.pdf

    This is a long NHS document indicating the cultural reasons why this might be the case. If you wade through it, you'll see that what I said about the culture of exercise is also correct. There are also dietary elements to the general lack of fitness amongst, as well as more child care responsibilities and corresponding loss of time to exercise.

    Like I said, I'm happy for you that your wife is a clearly avid mountain biker. But your anecdotal evidence stands in direct contradiction to the real evidence above.

  • Tour de France: David Millar shares his safety tips for fans at organisers' request1 year 6 weeks agoNumber 4 was not a safety

    Number 4 was not a safety tip! I nominate it to be changed to 'Do not through cups of urine'

  • Tour de France Stage 15: Chris Froome smashes rivals to win on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agodaddyELVIS wrote:Loved the

    daddyELVIS wrote:
    Loved the sprint to drop Contador - I was laughing aloud at how ridiculous that was!

    +1

    Yeah just goes to show the drugs really do work, turning froome from zero to climbing great Thinking

  • Tour de France Stage 15: Chris Froome smashes rivals to win on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoDecster wrote: Where does a

    Decster wrote:

    Where does a guy so skinny get the power to TT on the flat better than specialists?

    That's what really sets the alarm bells ringing for me. The climbing alone might just about be believable. Same alarm bells went off for Porte at Paris-Nice.

    If those performances were miraculous, it could be limited to particular individuals rather than full on UKPS - at least Wiggins' TT ability makes sense with his track background and he has vulnerabilities on the climbs!

  • Tour de France Stage 15: Chris Froome smashes rivals to win on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoWith doping becoming harder

    With doping becoming harder to get away with you would think cycling should be getting cleaner. Is it the culture within the sport or the desire to maximise performance to the edge that creates cyclists who take the dishonest route?

  • Tour de France Stage 15: Chris Froome smashes rivals to win on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoInsult and shoot the

    Insult and shoot the messenger.

    I am passionate about the sport of cycling, just not its current participants.

    That a guy looking like he escaped Belsen is able to climb better than anyone and TT as good as if not better( i suspect he slowed to let OPQS Martin win) is not believable.

    Where does a guy so skinny get the power to TT on the flat better than specialists?

    Why accept the doping? Because he is British?

    PS for those dismissing the clinic, they have a pretty high batting average.

  • Tour de France video: Rider impersonations including Cav, Cadel & Contador1 year 6 weeks agoGet videos. Didnt get cadel

    Get videos. Didnt get cadel quite right, he needed to be in the drops at all times when climbing.

  • The National Trust loves cycling - and they've painted Box Hill to prove it (well, the road)1 year 6 weeks agoNational Trust is a great fit

    National Trust is a great fit with cyclists, been a member for years and have taken a lot of routes along the historical houses and places. This looks great!

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agoProblem is that the TDF is a

    Problem is that the TDF is a commercial exercise, there to make money, if the sponsors, organisers, riders no long found it commercially viable then they would stop running the tour, unfortunately women's pro cycling struggles to sustain the races it already has and a women's tour has already been tried and failed.. You wouldn't expect a company to produce products for men or women just because they did so for the opposite sex if it didn't make financial sense..

    That said as the father to a daughter I would love to see her have the opportunity to compete in this kind of event if she was to be sufficiently talented and hard working..

  • My first post is a seat post post1 year 6 weeks agoThanks guys, all points taken

    Thanks guys, all points taken on board

  • Team Sky - Truth or Lie?1 year 6 weeks agohttp://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog

    http://cyclinginfo.co.uk/blog/7449/funny/simply-impossible-levels-of-jou...

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agoI posted this in the original

    I posted this in the original article about Pooley and Vos:

    Ladies tennis isn't a lot different from men's, but women's cycling, football, rugby, boxing etc are very different and as such the dynamic from the spectator's perspective is vastly different. Having said that, ladies track cycling gathers the same size crowds and excitement as the men.

    In order for there to be a successful female TDF, the women's sport needs to grow first. There aren't 'that' many women who cycle compared to men, so the number who compete and in turn work their way up into elite pro level is a lot less. This means that they haven't had to fight past as many opposition to get to where they are and that the 'top' level in female cycling isn't as much of a pinnacle as the men's.

    So, based on that the women's races aren't as hard fought. There are only 2 or 3 riders that contest the majority of wins in each discipline. Usually Vos! Compare that to the men where in a TT the usual suspects (Martin, Cancellara, Wiggins) are likely to win, but there are about 10/11 others who could (Kessiakoff, Chavanel, Millar, TJVG etc...). Same case in the sprints where Cav is expected to win (Like Vos), but we have a mass battle going on with Sagan, Griepel, Kittel as well as 10 others that could win. This doesn't happen in the women's event really. Head to head, there are 2 or 3 that can do it.

    In terms of hill-climbing, a lot of good amateur men will beat even the fastest pro women up a col. That just takes the God-like aura away from it all. Someone like Contador, Quintana etc, provides us with a superhuman display, where you won't get that with the women's climbing.

    So, my point is that unless the women's sport grows and becomes as much as a spectacle as the men's, they won't get a TDF. I apologise if I've come across mildly sexist with what I've said as this truly isn't the case, it's just what I believe the reasons to be for women not/ never getting a TDF.

    Get out there and get riding people.

  • Tour de France Stage 15 reaction after Bastille Day fireworks on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoGood quote from

    Good quote from Quintana;

    "I'm absolutely exhausted.I can see Chris Froome on the trainer now but I can only think about rest."

    These are the marginal gains which win you grand tours and the commitment needed to win.

  • Tour de France Stage 15: Chris Froome smashes rivals to win on Mont Ventoux1 year 6 weeks agoI'm a bit naive when it comes

    I'm a bit naive when it comes to the doping scandals, if I'm totally honest. I'm not even into the sport that much, although enjoy the Tour and the past couple of years of cycling growth. I just like to rides my bike(s) and did used do a bit of competitive cycling in my youth; but that's beside the point...

    I'm the fittest and perhaps the fastest I've ever been. It takes dedication and practice, sometimes minute gains, quantified self and guidance in one form or another. My own personal gains have been in running; from the first time I ran a half marathon in 2.5 hours to just outside 1.5 these days. I'm quicker on the bike too Wink

    Can someone progress to the standard Froome has? For sure, absolutely. And those gains apply across a whole spectrum of the current riders from the UK. The entire team rode out of their skin; I felt sorry for Peter Kennaugh when he finished for the day. His legs are going to hurt now! The race leaders were excellent, Froome clearly at an advantage over the impetuousness of youth despite the pained expression on his face.

    Brilliant.

  • Tour de France Stage 15 - MONT VENTOUX-1 year 6 weeks agooh hang on, that 49' time is

    oh hang on, that 49' time is just for the last 15km, my bad.

  • Why can’t we have a women’s Tour de France?1 year 6 weeks agoNot KOM wrote: Did you ever

    Not KOM wrote:

    Did you ever consider that the reason many women are not involved in sport is because they don't ever see other women involved in sport? Because it's a gender stereotype that a lot of women should remain pretty at all times, not push themselves or do anything that makes them ugly? Or that, competition by it's very nature, is discouraged amongst young women because it's 'unlady-like'? And to compete is to be associate with 'manliness' which actually isn't something our culture values in socially acceptable young woman?

    That entire paragraph is utter bollocks. My wife's obsession with her appearance is what motivates her to get out of bed early in the morning and go ride her mountain bike in the pissing rain. You have oversimplified the whole situation to a ridiculous degree.

  • The National Trust loves cycling - and they've painted Box Hill to prove it (well, the road)1 year 6 weeks agoThis is ace. Not sure if the

    This is ace.

    Not sure if the NT using the the same agency for it, but this is ace too: http://theclickdesign.com/projects/national-trust-natures-playground/

  • Why is it considered wanky to wear sky kit1 year 6 weeks agoI have to say reading all

    I have to say reading all this rubbish about team kit is almost enough to put a new cyclist off even bothering to get out and ride. I've recently returned to riding and as I need a jersey just happen to like and have bought some of the pro team kit. I don't hurtle past people thinking I'm in some way superior, I certainly don't make snide comments as I'm in no position to and just because I have some team kit I don't profess to be any kind of expert. So books and covers springs to mind.

    For all those people passing comment, how about we all concentrate on riding (and getting others to), rather than worrying our tiny minds about what is allegedly naff and what isn't .

    Wear what you want, when you want and enjoy the experience!

  • Tour de France Stage 15 - MONT VENTOUX-1 year 6 weeks agoAlan Tullett wrote:Dave

    Alan Tullett wrote:
    Dave Atkinson wrote:
    chokofingrz wrote:
    Anyone know Froome's climb time and where it ranks among previous Ventoux ascents?

    it was fast, but not super-fast, judging by what people are saying on twitter. 49 mins or so

    55 is the record, they said on Eurosport on an IT stage in the CdD.

    sub-46 is the record, Iban Mayo. Pantani did it in 46 which is the fastest non-TT time i think

  • Tour de France Stage 15 - MONT VENTOUX-1 year 6 weeks agoray silvester

    ray silvester wrote:
    TERatcliffe26 wrote:
    Ive gone this

    Froome
    Mollema
    Quintana
    Fuglsang (as much with tuesday in mind)
    Ten Dam
    Hoogerland
    Fischer
    Mederal

    Will use all 4 transfers we get for tuesday as I think the top 5 will contain riders similar to a previous stage so will take a risk on that Thinking It may leave me a tad vulnerable for the ITT, but I think its a difficult one to predict.

    As for rcuk, I was gonna bring in froome today, but didn't wanna have to take him out again for Sagan on tuesday, so he will come in for Wednesday and then my team is set until the end, with 3 transfers for the last stage

    Thinking of the stage Sagan won no doubt?

    Nope actually he came 2nd