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Quite.
one race got swapped, and one got added?
stay away from roundabouts then
I think, in fairness, if you signed up then you acknowledge the fact that it's an extremely time-consuming competition, where regular checking is essential. Whilst, so far, I have paid full and regular attention to forum threads and email correspondence I admit that at some point during the season I may be unable to log-in/have Internet access etc. it goes with the territory, im afraid. Those complaining need to move on. These are very early days. Praise the great things about the game and give it the time you can afford.
Yay, another reason to hate UKIP, apart from them being closet racists and general scumbags.
And 700c
Pedal faster.
Seriously, if you can't keep up with 50 teeth on the front you won't manage it with 52. Or you could get an 11-tooth small cog on the cassette.
Totally agree Bob,
another thought I had was that anyone who picked a team based on Saymn before the change of race didn't have a full rider list anyway (it was about half done tuesday night), and also an extra day was added, so anyone who may have come on to check points expecting to see them for Saymn would have seen it hadn't taken place and still would have been able to pick a team.
Id say probably 19 out of every 20 players wouldn't have been caught out. and for those caught out it was unfortunate and we did what we could in the circumstances
I don't think its about having a full 9 riders or whatever it may be for every race, as having 6 could score you more points. Its more about your roster and in picking that is the skill to balancing it the best. Also we need a calender in place if we are going to score it fantasy wise, it doesn't need to correlate with on here as I would do the points manually. But knowing a calender in advance means I could try and ut together some kind of spreadsheet.
It think as a draft goes I had this in mind. (So forget the rider values for now)
So we have 10 teams. 27 draft rounds + 3 neo-pro rounds
Teams A to J
Round 1: Order of Picks: A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J
Round 2: B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,A
Round 3: C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,A,B
Round 4: D,E,F,G,H,I,J,A,B,C
Round 5: E,F,G,H,I,J,A,B,C,D
Round 6: F,G,H,I,J,A,B,C,D,E
Round 7: G,H,I,J,A,B,C,D,E,F
Round 8: H,I,J,A,B,C,D,E,F,G
Round 9: I,J,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H
Round 10: J,A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H
and that is repeated for 11-20 and 21-30
So every team rolls round in the order they pick. Also just because A goes first doesnt mean he has to Pick Cav or Sagan, he may choose to go Slagter, if he thinks he will do well. With a draft situation you often get quality going first but you also get people tactically thinking a certain rider may stay till round 3 or 4. So after round 1 a rider like Cancellara may be available, but A may not choice him in round 2, tactically thinking he may still be there in round 3. Its actually quite fun to do. Also latter on it rounds quality becomes less of an issue as they are more even so people choose favourites whereas the rider values may have then higher (I would choose Santambrogio over JTL in round 10 for example although Santambrogio would be much cheaper)
what do you think of that kind of idea?
Started off thinking WT only, then got distracted trying to work out the points breakdown, and forgot WT in the process of disappearing up my own orifice.
If we're doing it for WT points as the first priority, you have 19 teams worth of riders. Just becomes a question then of how you choose or allocate riders. If you want to give people choice, then you need less than 19 teams. Even 1
less gives some choice. The fewer the more choice.
I agree we need more than the handful of us already doing this, and to attract players it probably needs to be simpler than the spreadsheet I'm doing, and I suspect you guys are using. I don't mind the effort, since I'm learning a lot about the sport doing this, which makes it worthwhile to me.
The auction/draft mess and 60 riders are too complex and too many. We'll see how many riders we each get into each WT race this year, but I don't think at 28-30 you will fill your roster for every race, unless you pick heavily along the lines of a current WT team lineup, or are very good/lucky. For example I've been over for TdU and PN, but I'll be short for Tirreno, and I'm guessing for other races to come.
As for picking, if we can't just do as we did this year and we have to avoid overlaps, then we need some way to make it a fair process. How about I get first choice, since I'm going to come last this year
If we had say 12 team slots, what about each of us taking 1/12th of the riders available, so we split all the WT riders between us? Ignoring values, other than as a guide to 'quality'. Or is that what you mean by draft. I'm never sure how drafts work, since in NBA, the only sport I follow that does drafts (that I know of) it's a mystery to me how it works.
I still think a random allocation of the top n riders to teams could work.
Anyway got 9 months to iron this out, so no hurry. Anyone has a light bulb moment, please illuminate us all.
Well that helps. I can replace him with someone else I wanted in.
It was a bit annoying but there was plenty of warning and the reasons for all the changes were fully explained.
I'm sure some people couldn't make any changes in time because they were busy or such like but the same could apply to every stage. For the players who did enter, i.e. me, it would be frustrating to have spent the time to pick a team and lose the points. It only took 5 minutes to pick Sagan and eight random others and get a decent haul of points.
I'm not a Premium, but this sounds fair to me... I haven't been able to play, but I did find all the changes dizzying! Without wanting to upset anyone I think it would fair to remove the points for these competitions and just count the races that were totally identified in the calendar... Just thinking out loud here...
What's the weight for RS81? Pleeeeeez say you have it?
That's one of the nice things about having the 'Rankings' page show all the riders on one page. You can check this info more easily... Thanks for making the fix, Dave!
+1 + a thousand times
How many drivers have ever been killed by a cyclist?
Also, this notion that a cyclist ever "causes accidents" is complete nonsense.
Because it's a free country and a forum for adults. If someone wishes to demean themselves by the use of 'sailortalk' then they are free to do so.
08 Nov. 107.21KMs 1 point
16 Nov. 103.98KMs 1 point
23 Nov. 103.29KMs 1 point
27 Nov. 100.64KMs 1 point
29 Nov. 104.52KMs 1 point
30 Nov. 101.41KMs 1 point
07 Dec. 108.76KMs 1 point
04 Jan. 105.13KMs 1 point
01 Feb. 101.01KMs 1 point
15 Feb. 101.13KMs 1 point
01 Mar. 102.25KMs 1 point
Total Km 1139.33 Total points 11
Reminds me of Claris Works, the office-ish program that came with the original black and white Macs. It was fine actually. Wonder if they bought the brand off Apple?
I think if your doing it as a draft rather than an auction per say then your way seems far too complicated and far too restrictive.
I don't quite get your first point
532 riders of WT means all the others are non-WT therefore in the main will not be selected if we are sticking to WT races, so obviously if you had 15 teams you are not leaving much choice for people if its a draft and made them pick certain riders within certain price brackets etc
Compulsory crash helmets for car occupants would reduce head injuries save lives.
Only used procycling stats for a couple of races after Gkam, I think, gave a link to it. Kidnapping Wig-Billy sounds like a good idea though. How the hell does he do it? At least I got Paolini for Omloop which he missed!
He is out of Roma too.....as he is now riding Paris-Nice
Damn! You beat me to it
Cycling fever appears to have been updated last around half 6 so I'm not sure the game will have caught up yet.
He's not listed on Cycling Fever.
http://www.cyclingfever.com/editie.html?detp=view&_ap=startlijst&editie_...
also
http://www.procyclingstats.com/race/118168022-Strade-Bianche-11-2013-Sta...
probably not greyed out on the site as he's due to ride Roma Maxima?